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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 1:59 pm
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Hard to explain but moving the guitar, it sounds like change or keys jingling in the guitar somewhere. Really weird! :(


Again, did you flip it over and look in the Tremolo spring compartment? If one of those came loose or broke, it will rattle forever with the slightest movement.

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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 4:50 pm
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Still buzzing like crazy. Brand new strat and I avoid playing it because of the crappy buzzy G string. I have owned about 10 strats in my life and always had at least one set up issue! I bought a brand new Tele and it was perfect out of the factory. WTF!

I looked at the bridge under a microscope, looked under the hood at the pickups and in the spring compartment. All is solid. Yet, put it all back together and the rattle is back and frickin buzzing G string.


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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 8:47 pm
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Ok.... I feel the fury rising in you, and believe me, we know your pain.....

....is there a way for you to do a youtube vid to demonstrate the fault?...

...and have you checked the tremolo spring compartment to make sure the earth wire is not 'rattling' against the springs, and that ALL the springs are properly in place? as Art1 recommends, that would be my next check.
After that, the saddles being correctly seated, ie. that BOTH 'feet' (Screws) of the saddle are supporting the string. If not, one screw will just sit in the thread of the saddle and buzz.

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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 3:51 am
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Ok can we do this properly now? Methodically? Start at one end and finish at the other?

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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 3:09 pm
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Thanks guys! Love the help you are all providing! :)

I spent some quality time on the set-up. I still hear the jungle or rattle near the bridge but can't find the issue. I straightened the neck as I realized the relief was too much and after that raised the action a hair. The action is now a little over 2/32 at the 12th fret and seems to be cool now, but I still want my tech to do a once over.


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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 5:07 pm
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Have him/her check the Trem springs. :)

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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:40 pm
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I spoke too soon. I did the set up quietly in my music room. I just had a chance to play it standing up while practicing some of my band's songs and it is a buzzy mess, all the plain strings are buzzing like crazy, mostly around the center of the fretboard, like 5th through 15th frets. It is unplayable right now.
If my tech can't get it right, I am done with strats and will stick to telecasters. My 2012 Tele set up perfectly and with crazy low action, I can't make it buzz if I wanted to.

I guess I could always sell this new strat and find another Tele, they just seem to play better, everything feels more solid and tighter, plays unreal. Strats always seem sloppy to me and I think I have yet to own a strat that didn't have set up issues that drove me nuts. :(


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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:00 pm
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It is very frustrating. I have been losing sleep over it.

Maybe it is the string brand? I use D'Addario 11-49 in Eb.

I notice that on my strat, the G string does not pass under a string tree, hence the G sits higher and has much less tension than the B and E strings which sit under the tree. I believe the lower tension is what is contributing to the buzz or the source.


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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 5:35 pm
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I noticed all the plain strings were starting to buzz. I always thought a guitar had to have some relief, and never be perfectly straight. So today I decided get the relief of the strat down to like nothing. It still plays great and with 2/32 action, it is playing cleaner withiut buzz.


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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 6:35 pm
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buzzing again, like crazy. I can not stand it. If my tech can't get it playable, this is my last strat for life. :(


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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 8:02 am
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No you just need to be methodical in setting the guitar up instead of having random stabs at ideas.

Start at the headstock and work back to the bridge. So get the old strings off, clean the nut slots, new strings (use .009's), adjust neck relief (around .014" for strats works best), lower pickups right down. Set the trem float. Set your action to something reasonable (like 4 or 5 mm at the 12th fret, lower afterwards). Set the intonation. Set the neck pickup height, set the bridge pickup height so it is of equal output to the neck pickup, set the middle pickup to the bridge and neck pickups.

If going about the job in a proper orderly fashion doesn't solve your problem, I bet you'll find the cause of it whilst doing the work.

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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 8:41 am
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What I have learned is that some guitars, like my tele and strat work best with basically a straight neck, especially the strat, in which I now have set to almost no relief and it plays like a dream. I never would have thought to get rid of all the relief, since I have always had at least a little relief on all my guitars as I thought the rule of thumb was to have some relief. Not sure why I never gave it a try to go straight. Now it seems cool. :)
Luckily the strings that are on the strat are bascally new!

Set the trem to float? LOL. I hate trems. Mine is locked down and blocked like a hard tail. I tossed the trem bar in a drawer and will never see it again, LOL!!!


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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 4:30 am
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plays like a dream but sounds like garbage with a weird noise?
Set some relief in the neck, trust me

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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:42 am
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If I add relief, the plain string buzzing annoys me.

What is the string action you guys tend to use on strats? Fender specs 2/32 or 4/64 which are the same.


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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 6:08 pm
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Sound's like you've the neck incorrectly shimmed and a fixation on achieving a certain string height to me. Adding relief tends to cure fret rattle, not cause it. The only way relief can add rattle is if the neck is angled to the body, curve beginning at around the 4th fret, headstock up. Yet measuring relief whilst playing lower than the relief point. In effect having the play area lower than the saddle break point.

If I were you, I'd drop the screwdrivers, take it into a shop and say, "make it play right will ya". And just accept what comes back.

I've never seen a guitar that doesn't fret rattle on a 2/32nds@12th action. Your strings vibrate in an arc wider than that at concert pitch.

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