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Post subject: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 8:22 pm
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Hi guys,

I have a new American Standard HSS strat and even after a set up by myself, and a few strings changes, the G/4th string will not stop buzzing up and down the neck. :(

Strings are 11-49 half step down.

Any ideas?


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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 8:43 pm
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That certainly doesn't sound normal/possible.....

First off, before we get started.....
I had a very similar strange experience with an old Tele I had......
After many months I figured out that the G was resonating causing the wires connecting the bridge pickup to 'rattle' against the base plate of the bridge pick-up.....
It was most bazaar!!!.... and the reason why I now 'glue' them in place...

Moral of this tale - are you certain that it isnt a section of hardware that is loose and rattling about? - it may sound improbable, but trust me on this, it can happen.

If your satisfied that it isnt this..... it could be a fret problem at a high possition and would require a good tech to 're-dress' the fret/s in question....(that is, if we presume the set-up has been done right - which I guess we will!!!! :D )


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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 1:06 am
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Agree with Paolo101, might be resonance and not fret buzz. There was just an interesting chain with some ideas for troubleshooting: http://forums.fender.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=85870

One time I had a tiny piece of old string in the bridge causing a buzz...


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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 4:54 am
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Paolo101 wrote:
That certainly doesn't sound normal/possible.....

First off, before we get started.....
I had a very similar strange experience with an old Tele I had......
After many months I figured out that the G was resonating causing the wires connecting the bridge pickup to 'rattle' against the base plate of the bridge pick-up.....
It was most bazaar!!!.... and the reason why I now 'glue' them in place...

Moral of this tale - are you certain that it isnt a section of hardware that is loose and rattling about? - it may sound improbable, but trust me on this, it can happen.

If your satisfied that it isnt this..... it could be a fret problem at a high possition and would require a good tech to 're-dress' the fret/s in question....(that is, if we presume the set-up has been done right - which I guess we will!!!! :D )


My tech is going to look at it in a couple weeks but you make a good point. When I move the guitar around, pick it up or turn it over, I hear something rattling in the bridge area. WTF???


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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 6:03 am
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I have a Deluxe Powerhouse that had a similar problem. I tried everything, even pulling my hair out, until I lubed the roller string tree. The problem was between the roller and the shaft.


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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 7:03 am
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Well, I know it's possible because I just had it happen to me last week, also with the D string. I had put a new set of strings on and the D was buzzing so bad I couldn't stand it. When I tried to tune it, it was giving off two frequencies, D and E, and constantly going back and forth between them. I plugged it into an amp to check and it was just as bad. I loosened the string and lubed the bridge and nut. Same thing. I ended up taking that string off and putting the old D back on, problem solved. I couldn't see anything physically wrong with the string I took off, but apparently it's possible to just get a bad string.

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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:14 am
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if it''s just one string, and if it frets out when you play the string opened, the first thing to suspect is the nut slot is cut too deep for that string.

you should be able to see this with a feeler gauge and compare the distance from the bottom if the string to the top of the feeler gauge with the other 5 strings.

If this is it, it's an easy fix...


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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 10:07 am
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It is definitely not the nut slot if it happens with fretted notes.

String height too low? Pickups too high? Saddle burred? Fret lifted?

Personally I'd suspect the saddle or the pickups being set too high.

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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 11:11 am
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yea, the key factor is if it's buzzing with an open note, however you'll still bottom out with a fretted note as well. (had an SG that had a poorly cut nut too, for me it was the D string.)

Not sure about pickups set too high though..

Saddle is possible too

to test the nut theory, you could take a very small tip of a tooth pick and sit in in the nut slot just to see if lifting the string a bit changes things.


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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 12:14 pm
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KidBlast wrote:
to test the nut theory, you could take a very small tip of a tooth pick and sit in in the nut slot just to see if lifting the string a bit changes things.

Hi KidBlast: richedie said -

richedie wrote:
...the G/4th string will not stop buzzing up and down the neck.

As soon as you fret a note anywhere on the neck you've taken the nut out of the equation. If you're still getting buzzing on fretted notes it ain't the nut.

(BTW: most of us would call the G string the third. Which string are we really talking about, richedie?)

Assuming we are indeed talking about fret buzz and not some other sort of rattle or sympathetic vibration then the long and short of it is that the string is too low to the frets. The solution to that is to raise the G string saddle by quarter turns of the height screws until the buzz stops.

Though if it's happening when you fret notes in all positions up and down the neck it possibly isn't fret buzz. In that case there's a world of possibilities and I'd start by looking for a burr on the saddle, like Nick said, and check whether the saddle is sitting firmly on both its height screws and not rocking slightly and vibrating. And... and... and...

So many possibilities when it comes to hard to track down buzzes from electric guitars.

Cheers - C

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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:55 pm
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Had this happen to a friend with a G&L Legacy and it was the Tremolo tension springs. Just a thought.

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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:16 pm
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Thank god I'm not alone on this one.... :lol:
It did take me a while to figure it out, but lesson learned I guess!....

Some great places to check, but i would be fairly certain if the guitar rattles when you move it around....
Errr.... Eureka!..... Id probably start there... :wink:

...then work your way through the list of things i might be..... (and yup' it will always the last thing you check because, after you find it...... you stop looking).

Just remember to be patient!!!! It may take a little time to get the answer but it's no biggie and can be solved......once found!.....haha.....(sorry :lol: )
I swear most of the relicing on that ole Tele came from a simple rattle....

Im sure your tech will solve this for you almost immediately..
Let us know!!!!....so we can add it to our list.....
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ps.DONT BURN IT !!!! lol


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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:45 pm
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Yep, buzzing for sure. I was able to raise the string very high to kill the buzz, but I can't play with action that high. Been playing 26 years and I like the action to my liking. It is going to my tech next week. I also noticed when I move the guitar body such as shake the guitar or turn it over, there is a loud rattle like hardware is loose in or on the body, but the bridge, saddles, screws, trem are all solid, no rattles. As soon as I move the guitar around, the loud rattle starts. Maybe something under the pickguard?


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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 7:18 pm
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Hard to explain but moving the guitar, it sounds like change or keys jingling in the guitar somewhere. Really weird! :(


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Post subject: Re: How can only one string buzz?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 7:44 pm
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It could be anything, bits of string, loose wire to bit of solder....etc.

but if you say you solved the problem completely by raising the 'action'(height of string)...

....could be a bit of both (resonance + setup issue)...

But both are solvable.....if ya know how.... :wink:

Keep us posted.


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