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Post subject: Re: Open G String Feedback
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 8:25 am
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I did a bit more digging and seem to have found what the problem is. Apparently it's a relative common problem. It's the part of the string between the nut and tuner that's the cause as it's the length (-->pitch) of a harmonic node on the G. Dampening the string after the nut stops it. I'm using a plectrum at the minute, but it seems a couple of extra winds when re-stringing is a better solution.
People have replaced nuts, pickups, etc before finding this out. Just glad to have figured it out!!

Ha! Well, how interesting. Common or not, that's a new one on me, so we're all learning stuff on this thread.

I wonder if it'll go away with a change of strings? Otherwise, a tiny bit (just a couple of mils) of the plastic coating from some small gauge electrical wiring slipped onto the string between nut and pole might be an easy and unobtrusive solution if the extra wraps round the post don't fix it. Just something to mute that vibration, right?

Thanks for the thread. I'll try and program this issue into the memory banks - for next time!

Cheers - C

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Post subject: Re: Open G String Feedback
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 11:43 am
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Ceri wrote:
Nik73 wrote:
I did a bit more digging and seem to have found what the problem is. Apparently it's a relative common problem. It's the part of the string between the nut and tuner that's the cause as it's the length (-->pitch) of a harmonic node on the G. Dampening the string after the nut stops it. I'm using a plectrum at the minute, but it seems a couple of extra winds when re-stringing is a better solution.
People have replaced nuts, pickups, etc before finding this out. Just glad to have figured it out!!

Ha! Well, how interesting. Common or not, that's a new one on me, so we're all learning stuff on this thread.

I wonder if it'll go away with a change of strings? Otherwise, a tiny bit (just a couple of mils) of the plastic coating from some small gauge electrical wiring slipped onto the string between nut and pole might be an easy and unobtrusive solution if the extra wraps round the post don't fix it. Just something to mute that vibration, right?

Thanks for the thread. I'll try and program this issue into the memory banks - for next time!

Cheers - C


Maybe common was the wrong word. Just that when I did a google search it brought back a lot of hits with people having the same problem as me. There was always plenty of replies with people who had the problem and sorted it, or not sometimes.

Yeah, a plectrum is neither unobtrusive or appropriate for a CS guitar. Your idea sounds much better if the extra winding doesn't work. :)

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Post subject: Re: Open G String Feedback
Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 2:55 pm
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not sure how you wind your string to the tuner, but I'm wondering if the method where you "lock" the string tagend around the string might solve the problem. definitely prevents string slippagen and increases tuning stability.
http://www.fretnotguitarrepair.com/repa ... anging.php

Again I don't know how you do it, but I use this method for my string changes and never have trouble, may be worth a shot. link above has an acoustic, but method is the same. hope it works out, then you won't have to do any other obtrusive mods.
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Post subject: Re: Open G String Feedback
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:07 pm
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Just my 2 cents worth, but I had a similar problem with the G AND B strings. It sounded like it was a fret buzz or something mechanical with the guitar itself. There were several frets involved up and down the neck, but closer to the 8th, 9th and 10th frets is where it was happening most and mostly on the G and B strings. Sounded Exactly like a string/fret buzz to me, and only those two strings. (But only when playing thru the amp/headphones) which should have been my first clue)

I had torn the guitar apart many times looking for whatever might be causing this - but found nothing.

I have the Texas special pickups and thought that somehow maybe the higher pole pieces might be interfering with the G string, and lowered these - No help.

I listen with headphones on a lot to keep my practicing civilized, but TODAY I noticed that after much working on the guitar itself, the "buzz" was back with a vengance.

I had spent weeks going thru the truss rod adjustments, saddle height, intonation and tried everything, but my G string buzz never went away. The guitar is a 2012 Strat American "special" so the neck is almost brand new.

I don't know why I thought of it, but since I have a Mustang 2 V2 amp hooked up all the time, I thought I would change "amplifiers" from the normal "Fender Deluxe" that is the first model I usually play Eagles stuff on and change to another model to see if that made any difference to the "fret buzz"

As it turns out it wasn't the guitar at all it was the software and in particular the GAIN setting that I was using!!!!!!!!

I know that it is very confusing (to me anyway) because I just spent weeks locating a real string buzz (neck was not adjusted to have a compensation for the string vibration.

I was wondering if it was a change in the weather/humidity/ temperature or WHAT the F?

But FINALLY I happened to CHANGE AMP MODELS, and the one that I went to had a lower GAIN setting.

NO MORE G STRING "BUZZ" Instant "Fix"

And I went back and turned down the Gain on the Fender Deluxe, and of course the BUZZ was gone there too!!!

So I can probably go back yet again and lower the action on the center four strings without causing a problem.

The Freuda guitar setup instructions on You Tube are excellent if you can understand his Italian accent.

That will get anyone into the ballpark mechanically with the Strat. The rest is in the GAIN settings you use.

I think somehow the amp does amplify certain frequencies more than others. That is why the G and B strings tend to be the ones that cause distortion problems with certain amp models.

But you will never hear it playing "metal 2000" or British 80's" because there is already so much distortion going on across the whole spectrum.

I would be interested to hear all your comments and suggestions as I am still a newbie as far as learning the guitar!

The thing is that my electronics troubleshooting background will stop me in my tracks playing if something like this shows up!! LOL!!


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