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Post subject: Re: NGD - Clapton CS Daphne Blue
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:06 pm
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Drew: On the Clapton: Volume is the top, TBX the middle[you should feel the detente at the 5 position on the dial], MDX is the bottom.


Thanks. So is the MDX considered a "Midrange Boost / Cut" of is it a "Midrange Boost"?
I don't feel a detente in the MDX, and the owners manual shows two types of midrange boost.

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Post subject: Re: NGD - Clapton CS Daphne Blue
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:25 pm
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Drew: On the Clapton: Volume is the top, TBX the middle[you should feel the detente at the 5 position on the dial], MDX is the bottom.


Thanks. So is the MDX considered a "Midrange Boost / Cut" of is it a "Midrange Boost"?
I don't feel a detente in the MDX, and the owners manual shows two types of midrange boost.

The designation MDX historically comes from the Elite Series Stratocaster era and Fender's development of active pickups. It was carried forward as shorthand. In the every day, the circuit is referred to as a mid-boost, or a midrange boost. It's what Clapton wanted in the electronics of the new Signature guitar developed for him in the mid-80's to get the throaty voice of a Les Paul. They took advantage of the Lace Sensor's which were in the Strat Plus, to cancel 60 cycle hum among other things.

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Post subject: Re: NGD - Clapton CS Daphne Blue
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:05 pm
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I'm really liking this guitar. The controls are pretty sensitive. You don't need to crank on them to make a difference. The pups are pretty hot, but clean up nicely with the volume. I especially like the neck pup. I prefer to do leads on the neck pup if I can get a good ballsy tone, and this one delivers in spades. I have a show coming up in two weeks and I have all my presets made for my Carvin with the Joe Bonamassa HB's. I'm thinking of using the EC Strat with the same presets, because a few tweaking of knobs and I'm good to go. I may bring it to rehearsal this week and test it out with the band. I'm sure of one thing, I will be heard! :D

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Post subject: Re: NGD - Clapton CS Daphne Blue
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:16 pm
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If you carefully watch videos of Clapton at work, you'll find that he uses the neck pickup quite extensively.

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Post subject: Re: NGD - Clapton CS Daphne Blue
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:40 pm
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Gorgeous guitar - thanks for sharing the pics!

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Post subject: Re: NGD - Clapton CS Daphne Blue
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:56 pm
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MDX stands for (M)i(D)range (X)pansion.

The circuit was developed by Paul Gagon in conjunction with James Demeter and John Carruthers.

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Paul worked for Jackson/Charvel for some time in 1985 before being hired by BBE Sound as a VP Engineering for G&L in January 1991.


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Post subject: Re: NGD - Clapton CS Daphne Blue
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:45 pm
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MDX stands for (M)i(D)range (X)pansion.

The circuit was developed by Paul Gagon in conjunction with James Demeter and John Carruthers.

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Paul worked for Jackson/Charvel for some time in 1985 before being hired by BBE Sound as a VP Engineering for G&L in January 1991.


See Drew: :shock: ....Be careful what you wish for. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: NGD - Clapton CS Daphne Blue
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:57 pm
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Drew365 wrote:
the owner's manual shows two types of midrange boost.


There's one and unique type of midrange boost and it's the MDX circuit itself.

The TBX is not a midrange booster; it's a passive tone circuit which acts as a regular tone control from 0 to 5.

Once you pass 5 you start to decrease the resistance, which allows more bass, treble, presence and output to flow to your amp.

A lot of people think of the TBX tone control as an active treble boost, but that’s not quite accurate. The TBX control actually consists of a custom dual-ganged pot (aka a “stacked” or “stereo” pot), a resistor and a capacitor that cuts the bass and treble out of the circuit, depending on which way you turn the knob. This can add some new dimension to your solo parts, especially if you are going for those bright, crystal clear Jeff Beck tones.

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The basic configuration of the TBX control (Fender part no. 0992052000) changed several times over the years. Fender used several different values for the two pots, the capacitor, and the resistor. The first few versions also lacked a center detent function. The current version consists of a detented 250k/1 Meg stacked pot, a 0.022uF standard film capacitor, and an 82k-Ω carbon-film resistor. In a nutshell, the TBX tone control is a special pot that cuts either treble or bass instead of a normal tone pot, which cuts only treble. This is done with the dual-ganged pot, which is wired to work as a low-pass filter in one direction and a high-pass filter in the other. The center detent in the middle is provided for the off or “flat” position.

The dual-ganged pot is cleverly designed, meaning you can’t substitute a normal stereo pot to make your own budget TBX control.

How does it work?

The bottom pot (with the shaft up) is pot B and is the normal tone control we all know. It’s a standard 250k audio pot with a range from 0 to 5 on the knob. At the detent (middle) position, it goes open and acts like a no-load tone pot, remaining out of the circuit from 5 to 10 on the knob.

The engineering behind this is actually very clever. Normally, the resistive material ring inside of the pot is a band of carbon-containing gunk that is printed onto the phenolic wafer. On the lower TBX pot, only half of the ring is conductive, as the other 50 percent is made out of a non-conductive material. So we can say it is a no-load tone control pot, but instead of going open at approximately 98 percent of its rotation, it goes out of the circuit at exactly 50 percent.

The other pot, which is labeled A, acts in the opposite direction. It also has a split resistive material ring inside, but instead of non-conductive material, metal is used for one half of the ring. This means that between 0 and 5 on the knob, its resistance is at maximum. After the detent position, the normal function takes place from 5 to 10 on the knob. This 1 Meg linear pot comes into the circuit in series with the resistor after the detent position. Because of the high resistance (1 Meg Ω), the load added to the passive guitar circuit is very low.


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Post subject: Re: NGD - Clapton CS Daphne Blue
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:53 pm
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Post subject: Re: NGD - Clapton CS Daphne Blue
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:49 am
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AngryHatter wrote:
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See!?!?!?! And he's got a great photo library as well :wink:

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Post subject: Re: NGD - Clapton CS Daphne Blue
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:54 am
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Having seen the latest CGF videos on Youtube, Daphne Blue was definitely abandoned in favor of his long-time favorite Blackie, with EC Grey serving as a backup.

No EC Red LTD in this 4th Crossroads Festival, though :cry:

But I expect to see Brownie made its first appearance in one of the upcoming RAH shows lately this month. :wink:

Surprise: a wonderful rendition of AFL's Gin House Blues, not dissimilar to the original 1999 and 2002 versions.



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Post subject: Re: NGD - Clapton CS Daphne Blue
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:07 am
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That's a very nice looking guitar, Drew. I've never been too sure about vibrato covers, but it really work with the daphne blue.

But I guess chrome and 50's colours were meant to be together!

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Post subject: Re: NGD - Clapton CS Daphne Blue
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:11 am
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[quote="Nobby1974"]... but it really work with the daphne blue, but then I guess chrome and 50's colours were meant to be together!
[Original DuPont automobile paints were used for custom colors in the early days of FMIC. Those are nice looking '58's.

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Post subject: Re: NGD - Clapton CS Daphne Blue
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:14 am
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ZZDoc wrote:
Original DuPont automobile paints were used for custom colors in the early days of FMIC.


Yup, I knew that so went hunting for 1958 cadillacs they'd used it on! Managed to screw my message in the edit, trying to add the second car picture... duh. :oops:

In the process, I randomly found a cool page comparing cars to guitars...


http://www.jedistar.com/car_colour_guitars.htm

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Post subject: Re: NGD - Clapton CS Daphne Blue
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:17 am
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Dayum!!!!
That is Frickin Gorgeous!!!!

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