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Post subject: Stratocaster ID
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:14 am
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Hi there!
new on board :)
I got a question and maybe you can help me out.
12 years ago i bought a stratocaster (new, bought from an authorized dealer), she sounds right, i didn't care about the specific model.
Now i would like to know something more about my guitar... i'm not selling so i don't care about her value.
Nothing has been modified, everything is original. Serial number start with N7... meaning production year should be between 1997 and 1998 and using a site (guitar project or something like that) should be a Corona production guitar.
Pickup seems to me Texas but is not a deluxe (serial should start with DN, right?)

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thanks in advance for your help.

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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster ID
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:32 am
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If the guitar has Texas Specials on it then it's a USA Roadhouse Strat.

This Hot Rodded American Series guitar differs from the regular American Strat as it lacks off the Delta-Tone system. It's also recognizable from the white pearloid or brown shell guards which came from the factory.

The USA Lone Strat is the same guitar except for the addition of a Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates Plus humbucking pickup in the bridge position.

The Deluxes from that period used two Vintage Noiseless pickups in the neck & middle and a hotter-sounding dual-coil Ceramic Noiseless pickup in the bridge. The fretboard was abalone dot-inlaid with rolled edges and further attention was given to the fret and nut treatment.


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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster ID
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:42 am
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Hi Chromeface,
thanks for your help.
before to open this topic i search on the web and the hot rodded pictures i found are exactly my guitar except for the bridge.
i should retrieve a 1997/1998 catalog but all the pictures on the web (that i found :)) have a different bridge then mine.


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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster ID
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:46 am
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The bridge on the Hot Rodded American Strats is the same unit Fender used on the "regular" American Series models between 1986 and 2007.

Not to be confused with the Hot Rodded American Vintage series (aka Vintage Hot Rod) which is currently phased out.


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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster ID
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:50 am
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chrome, the rolled edge board didn't start until 2000 but everything else you mentioned was spot on. They introduced the rolled edge the same year they renamed the American Standard to American Series.

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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster ID
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:55 am
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found one that is like mine (except color)

Hope no violation copying url...

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In the summer of 1997 Fender USA introduced a new lineup of "hotrodded" American Standard Stratocasters. This new trio of guitars included the "Lone Star", the "Big Apple" and the "Roadhouse". The "Lonestar" featured 2 overwound "Texas Special" Custom Shop pickups and a Seymour Duncan "Pearly Gates" humbucker in the bridge position. The "Big Apple" utilized a pair of humbuckers, and the "Roadhouse" was comprised of 3 "Texas Special" pickups in the traditional Stratocaster configuration. All three models had other various upgrades beyond the American Standard of which they were based, including pearloid or tortoise pickguards, Tolex hardshell cases, exclusive colors, and the choice of either a rosewood fretboard or fretted maple neck.The guitar shown here is a "Teal Metallic" Roadhouse from the first year of production.

http://vintagefenders.weebly.com/more-stratocasters.html


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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster ID
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:54 pm
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BMW-KTM wrote:
chrome, the rolled edge board didn't start until 2000 but everything else you mentioned was spot on. They introduced the rolled edge the same year they renamed the American Standard to American Series.



Originally the rolled edge necks were an exclusive feature for the American Deluxe Series since their introduction in 1998. Fender adopted this luxury on the American Series circa 2000.


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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster ID
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:12 pm
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The Madcap Laughs wrote:
found one that is like mine (except color)

Hope no violation copying url...

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In the summer of 1997 Fender USA introduced a new lineup of "hotrodded" American Standard Stratocasters. This new trio of guitars included the "Lone Star", the "Big Apple" and the "Roadhouse". The "Lonestar" featured 2 overwound "Texas Special" Custom Shop pickups and a Seymour Duncan "Pearly Gates" humbucker in the bridge position. The "Big Apple" utilized a pair of humbuckers, and the "Roadhouse" was comprised of 3 "Texas Special" pickups in the traditional Stratocaster configuration. All three models had other various upgrades beyond the American Standard of which they were based, including pearloid or tortoise pickguards, Tolex hardshell cases, exclusive colors, and the choice of either a rosewood fretboard or fretted maple neck.The guitar shown here is a "Teal Metallic" Roadhouse from the first year of production.

http://vintagefenders.weebly.com/more-stratocasters.html


In 2000 Fender renamed these models as American Strat Texas Special/American Fat Strat Texas Special/American Double Fat Strat - the same guitars except for the addition of the cosmetic upgrades which occurred on the "regular" American Strats in 2000.

The Hot-Rodded American series were gone in 2002 and the following year a new breed of humbucking American Strats equipped with the S1 switch appeared. Fender discontinued the HH models in 2006 but retained the HSS Strat which subsequently lose its S1 switch with the introduction of the "new" American Standard Series in 2008.


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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster ID
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:28 am
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Hi Chromeface, thanks again.
Then, my guitar is a Stratocaster Roadhouse.
Now, one million dollar question (polite way to say... dumb question :))... do you think make sense to change Texas with Van Zandt pickup (never had the chance to play)?
What are the main difference that can really be appreciated using Van Zandt compared to Texas?


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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster ID
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:34 am
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Depends your personal taste. :wink:

It's at your own will to decide if you really need to exchange the stock TX Specials for a set of Van Zandt Blues singles.

Personally I would keep the guitar stock.

But if you feel not satisfied with the TX Specials you can put any pickup of your choice at your heart's delight.

For an SRV type of sound two Blues singles in the neck & middle and a Vintage Plus in the bridge fit the bill to perfection.

And since your guitar is universally routed you can make an HSS setup and slap a hot humbucker in the bridge position. In that case you'll need to change the pickguard.


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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster ID
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:10 am
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The fact is that i'm satisfied by tx pups but i was wondering if tx are inspired by SRV sound and actually SRV used van zandt... my guitar could sound even better.
That's why i was asking.

Humbucker ... mmm ... this is something even more interesting. do you have further detail about which pups or some video comparison?

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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster ID
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:46 am
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If you google on youtube you'll find a couple of vids showing the pickups in action to compare.

The Lonestar has a Pearly Gates Plus humbucking pickup which matches the Texas Specials to perfection.

But SRV was not alone, other famous artists such as Bonnie Raitt and Mark Knopfler adopted the Texas Specials for their Artist signature guitars.

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Richie Sambora used the Texas Specials in his modified HRR50s Strat crafted by the folks at the CS. This guitar became the basis for a signature model in 1991 which also sported a maple neck with graduated mother-of-pearl star fretboard inlays, an original Floyd Rose locking tremolo, a DiMarzio Custom PAF Pro humbucker in the bridge position and an Eric Clapton active circuit with a push-push bypass switch.

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In 1999 the Sambora Strat received an overhaul to reflect the changes Richie made to his own guitar before being definitely discontinued in 2002.

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SRV used van zandt...


Not all of his guitars came with Van Zandts.

The Robin Family mandolin/6-string double neck guitar Dave Wintz had built for him in the 1980s sported Rio Grande pickups.

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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster ID
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:03 am
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Hi Chromeface,
what's the switch on SRV guitar?
What i meant about SRV guitar is that (if i well understood) Fender was inspired by one of SRV strato to create TX but actually SRV had Van Zandt.
But is something i read somewhere :)


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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster ID
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:10 am
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The 3-way toggle switch on the Family double neck allows the switch from the 6-string to the mandolin and vice-versa. Both are active when the toggle is set in position 2.

I think SRV asked Fender to duplicate the Van Zandts on #1, giving the birth to the Texas Specials.


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Post subject: Re: Stratocaster ID
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:24 am
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Hi Chromeface,
before to open the topic i've contacted directly fender with serial number and while waiting their feedback i've opened this topic (to be fair , even if on their automatic response they said it will take time to answer to all emails... after one week they come back to me with details. thumb up!).
Yesterday guy from fender sent me an email and here the details and what you previously told me correspond with fender details :)
Just for your info... and thx again.

Manufacture Date: 07/02/1997

Model Name: RoadhouseTM Stratocaster®

Model Number: 010-7300-(Color#) and 010-7302-(Color#)

Series: Hot Rodded American Standard Series

Body: Alder

Neck: Maple

Fingerboard: Rosewood pn# (010-7300) or Maple pn# (010-7302), (9.5” Radius/241 mm)

No. of Frets: 22 Medium Jumbo Frets

Scale Length: 25.5” (648 mm)

Width @ Nut: 1.6875” (43 mm)

Hardware: Chrome

Machine Heads: Fender/Schaller Deluxe Cast/Sealed

Bridge: American Standard Tremolo

Pickguard: White Pearloid on (809) Candy Apple Red, (844) Shoreline Gold, (845) Teal Green Metallic

Tortoise Shell on (800) 3-Color Sunburst, (805) Olympic White, (806) Black

Pickups: 3 Texas SpecialTM Strat® Pickups with Special Flatter Pole Piece Array

Pickup Switching: 5-Position Blade:

Position 1. Bridge Pickup

Position 2. Bridge and Middle Pickup

Position 3. Middle Pickup

Position 4. Middle and Neck Pickup

Position 5. Neck Pickup

Controls: Master Volume, Tone 1. (Neck Pickup), Tone 2. (Middle Pickup)

Colors: (700)* 3-Color Sunburst, *add $80.00,

(705) Olympic White,

(706) Black,

(709) Candy Apple Red,

(744) Shoreline Gold,

(745) Teal Green Metallic,

(Polyurethane Finish)
Strings: Fender Super Bullet 3250L’s (.009 to .042) Nickel Plated Steel pn#073-3250-003


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