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Post subject: Re: Clapton's "Brownie"
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:45 pm
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The Custom Shop will certainly build a Clapton Strat for you


If I was having a CS Clapton style strat built I would change a few things. First off I would want the neck to have more of a vintage amber tint to it, the necks on the Clapton strats now are pretty light, and I would want a different color, like Sherwood Green or Gunmetal Blue. And I would want it with Lace Sensors like the 90's ones.


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Post subject: Re: Clapton's "Brownie"
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:20 pm
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@Jason SD

One of the custom one-offs J.W. Black did for Eric in the 1990s was finished in Sherwood Green. It sported a white pearloid pickguard.

The other Strat was a Candy Apple Red with gold hardware and matching headstock.

Both guitars had a nicely flamed maple neck.


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Post subject: Re: Clapton's "Brownie"
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:26 am
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So lets say the Clapton strat is going to go for like $25,000, and you had that kind of money for a guitar, would you get the Clapton strat, or would you use that money for a real vintage strat?

IMHO any serious collector of means will go for it and would likely have a clutch of vintage guitars in their collection as well. These repros are part of a special group of guitars.

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Post subject: Re: Clapton's "Brownie"
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:08 am
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Should we ask Alain ...? Doc I'm sure we know the answer to this question .... :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Clapton's "Brownie"
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:25 pm
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Should we ask Alain ...? Doc I'm sure we know the answer to this question .... :wink:

Res ipsa loquitor :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Clapton's "Brownie"
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:52 pm
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here's the clapton pic I was talking about, if it works.

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Post subject: Re: Clapton's "Brownie"
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:28 am
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I haven't been on here in a while so forgive me if this has already been discussed but I just got the news today about the Custom Shop's upcoming "Brownie" clone.......only 100 to be made. Anybody have any clue what the price of these guitars will be? Does anybody recall what they charged for the "Blackie" replica?

I'd love to have one but I have a feeling the price won't be anything close to affordable for me.


http://gc.guitarcenter.com/clapton/detail.cfm?tabgray=4

For Blackie MRSP $24k, retail $20k...

Also look here: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=82996 for a thread on this guitar in the Let's Talk Custom Shop section of the forum.

If you feel the Brownie Tribute might be a bit too much, a 1956 Time Machine might be a good altrnative for you. To be clear, I'm talking about the old base model with the vintage correct neck radius, alder body wood and Custom '50 pickups here.


(@Fender: naming the modernized 2013 model exactly the same as one of your older Time Machine base models which had the vintage correct specs is very confusing....)


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Post subject: Re: Clapton's "Brownie"
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:34 am
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Should we ask Alain ...? Doc I'm sure we know the answer to this question .... :wink:

There is some fog ; let things getting clarified.. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Clapton's "Brownie"
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:40 am
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Bobby1 wrote:
Midniterambler wrote:
I'd love to have one but I have a feeling the price won't be anything close to affordable for me.


http://gc.guitarcenter.com/clapton/detail.cfm?tabgray=4

For Blackie MRSP $24k, retail $20k...

Also look here: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=82996 for a thread on this guitar in the Let's Talk Custom Shop section of the forum.

If you feel the Brownie Tribute might be a bit too much, a 1956 Time Machine might be a good altrnative for you. To be clear, I'm talking about the old base model with the vintage correct neck radius, alder body wood and Custom '50 pickups here.


(@Fender: naming the modernized 2013 model exactly the same as one of your older Time Machine base models which had the vintage correct specs is very confusing....)


Yeah I actually already have a 2007 vintage spec CS Time Machine '56 Relic....and a new AVRI '56 Strat....and after reading that the "Brownie" clones are going for $15,000, I suppose those two guitars are the closest I'll get to my own "Brownie".

I don't really care for the Custom Shop's modernisation of the Time Machine line (meaning the flatter fretboard radii, bigger frets, hotter pickups, etc....). All those modern specs are fine for players who want that, but they've turned the supposedly vintage correct Time Machine line into a sort of CS Vintage Hot Rod series. The California factory has their AVRI line and the Vintage Hot Rod line. I dunno why the CS doesn't try two similar series.


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Post subject: Re: Clapton's "Brownie"
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:08 am
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....and after reading that the "Brownie" clones are going for $15,000..


:shock: :shock:

Man alive, some peeps have lots of doug to blow..

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Post subject: Re: Clapton's "Brownie"
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:17 am
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Midniterambler wrote:

Yeah I actually already have a 2007 vintage spec CS Time Machine '56 Relic....and a new AVRI '56 Strat....and after reading that the "Brownie" clones are going for $15,000, I suppose those two guitars are the closest I'll get to my own "Brownie".

I don't really care for the Custom Shop's modernisation of the Time Machine line (meaning the flatter fretboard radii, bigger frets, hotter pickups, etc....). All those modern specs are fine for players who want that, but they've turned the supposedly vintage correct Time Machine line into a sort of CS Vintage Hot Rod series. The California factory has their AVRI line and the Vintage Hot Rod line. I dunno why the CS doesn't try two similar series.


Yes .... but the 56 NOS Time Machine's are unmolested by modern preferences, so the option is there, it's just some people desire a little upgrade on their retro. Perfectly fine and Fender doesn't call them as NOS ..

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But I will admit that some of the modern improvements do appeal to me ... 8)

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Post subject: Re: Clapton's "Brownie"
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:27 am
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....and after reading that the "Brownie" clones are going for $15,000..
:shock: :shock:
Man alive, some peeps have lots of doug to blow..

They only need 100 peeps and $1.5 million to cover their cost, profit, and what ever else the dough is being earmarked for...'Crossroads Center' I would expect. Then the aftermarket games will begin. That's always interesting. BTW...not every GC is going to handle this event and those living in states with high sales taxes are going to pay nearly an additional $1000 for the priviledge of owning this. At the end of the day, when one considers the fact that the SRV Tribute guitar sold at $10K, the price point on Brownie is nearly the same, inflation considered. Have fun, ya'll. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Clapton's "Brownie"
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:40 am
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Well I have the low-end "Brownie" my 56 2 tone Custom Shop relic strat.

Would love to buy the Clapton Brownie and will when I win the lottery!


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Post subject: Re: Clapton's "Brownie"
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:35 pm
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53magnatone wrote:
Midniterambler wrote:

Yeah I actually already have a 2007 vintage spec CS Time Machine '56 Relic....and a new AVRI '56 Strat....and after reading that the "Brownie" clones are going for $15,000, I suppose those two guitars are the closest I'll get to my own "Brownie".

I don't really care for the Custom Shop's modernisation of the Time Machine line (meaning the flatter fretboard radii, bigger frets, hotter pickups, etc....). All those modern specs are fine for players who want that, but they've turned the supposedly vintage correct Time Machine line into a sort of CS Vintage Hot Rod series. The California factory has their AVRI line and the Vintage Hot Rod line. I dunno why the CS doesn't try two similar series.


Yes .... but the 56 NOS Time Machine's are unmolested by modern preferences, so the option is there, it's just some people desire a little upgrade on their retro. Perfectly fine and Fender doesn't call them as NOS ..

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But I will admit that some of the modern improvements do appeal to me ... 8)


Hi 53magnatone,

It's not the point that FCS wants to bring these guitars up to a standard that today's players supposedly want. The only thing that really bothers me is that they are selling them under the Time Machine name. Initially, the Time Machine series were all about getting the specs as closely as possible to the originals. Calling a guitar with hotter pups, flatter fretboard radius and bigger frets etc. a Time Machine is very confusing. Midniterambler makes a good point here that the factory takes a much more understandable approach in naming these guitars. Imagine you were a youngster that's just developing an interest in the Stratocaster, the current labeling of FCS wouldn't make any sense to you at all.


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Post subject: Re: Clapton's "Brownie"
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:40 pm
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Midniterambler wrote:
...Yeah I actually already have a 2007 vintage spec CS Time Machine '56 Relic....and a new AVRI '56 Strat....


I haven't had the chance yet to try one of those new AVRI '56 Strats yet. Could you tell me how it compares to the '56 Time Machine? I'm particularly interested in how the neck profiles compare, and if the factory model has sufficently deep body contours....


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