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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:44 am
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Been following this thread with interest. Bear in mind that a Strat body on its own weighs in the region of 3.5 to 4 lbs. So if the weight difference between yours and a normal one is all down to the body wood, it may be adding 50 percent to the overall weight of the instrument, but it is more than doubling the weight of the body itself.

That is rather remarkable. Different pieces of the same species of timber can differ quite a lot in density and weight - but a variance of 100 percent is hard to believe. Surely it must be a completely different timber - but what?

Ash is usually reckoned roughly similar to alder or perhaps lighter: it ain't that. Mahogany would take the weight up - but surely not even a mahogany body could be eight pounds on its own?

I have no answer - but I'd be most curious to know. Perhaps you have a cement-ocaster... Well, that would explain the excellent sustain you say you have, at any rate. Let us know if you find out anything, er, concrete...

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If it is the Walnut version it will weight more. Black Walnut is supposed to be a heavy wood and it is very strong and stable plus easy to use but itsmostly only used in high end cabnets and furniture its not cheap wood for sure and in most case it has a real straight grain to it. You dont see a lot of old Black Walnut trees any more but there around they will grow in groups because they poison other treees around them with there roots that way they protect there area of growth. And remember th Black walnut body guitar sold for like 500 more

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Ash is usually reckoned roughly similar to alder or perhaps lighter: it ain't that. Mahogany would take the weight up - but surely not even a mahogany body could be eight pounds on its own?


I always heard/thought that 1) the weight of alder bodies varied less than ash, 2) that ash's weight could vary widely even within a species (Northern Ash vs Swamp Ash), and 3) the heaviest strats were ash.

Over the years, I've heard that Swamp Ash were the heaviest AND that Northern Ash were the heaviest. So I don't know. I suppose I should ask my old friend at the US Dept of Ag/Forest Products Lab to ask the "tree guys" there about this ....

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I always heard/thought that 1) the weight of alder bodies varied less than ash, 2) that ash's weight could vary widely even within a species (Northern Ash vs Swamp Ash), and 3) the heaviest strats were ash.

Over the years, I've heard that Swamp Ash were the heaviest AND that Northern Ash were the heaviest. So I don't know. I suppose I should ask my old friend at the US Dept of Ag/Forest Products Lab to ask the "tree guys" there about this ....


Yep: that's they way I have it.

So happens, I had to fell an ash tree on my land - and then a year or so later another was hit by a truck and had to come down too. Had both of those trunks milled and then carefully seasoned them, and have that timber stored for - certain purposes.

Those two trees lived within 50 yards of each other, like as not came from the same parent: and the weight, density and grain of the resulting timber is distinctly different.

But for all that, one does not weigh double what the other does (see OP).

Also had a pear come over (windy as the Wizard of Oz round here) and gave it the same treatment. Now that's a dense wood - but I bet the gentleman's Strat is not made of pear!

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I have to see if I know someone but I believe if it is the Black Walnut it would be heavier. If I remember walnut is like 40% heavier then Ash on average

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