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Post subject: No "Blackie" on 2002 black Clapton Strat
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 4:48 pm
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Hi-

Sorry if this has been covered over and over... Tried a few searches but found no answer.

I have a black 2002 Clapton Strat. It has the signature on the headstock but no "blackie" like other black ones I have seen. Always getting questions about authenticity...:shock:

Why no "Blackie"?

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Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 7:23 pm
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This is because you have the Eric Clapton artist series. You don't actually have a "Blackie" replica. If Fender put blackie on just a plain old black strat that would be misinforming the customer.


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Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 8:13 pm
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aznedvin wrote:
This is because you have the Eric Clapton artist series. You don't actually have a "Blackie" replica. If Fender put blackie on just a plain old black strat that would be misinforming the customer.


Thanks, but that does not really answer the question. What I have is far from a plain old black strat. It is, as you say, Eric Clapton artist series (25db boost, TBX, single ply pickguard, blocked tremolo). I can go to many websites that sell these and look at many used on e-bay, and they have "blackie" on them. Mine does not. Wondering why. Did not do it in certain years? Some years maybe made more of a distinction between "artist series" and "custom artist series"?


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Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 8:52 pm
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I almost pulled the trigger on a 2008 Clapton production (artist) series strat in black that had "Blackie" on it and it was the $1500 one, not the $2000+ ones. Could be that someone may have removed it prior to you getting it, if you got it used. If not, hmmm, don't know what to tell you there.

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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:09 am
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hmmm I always thought they didn't put blackie on the artist series since it is on the replica of the actual "BLACKIE." Yes it is possible that someone may have scratched it out. Does it still have Clapton's signature on it though?


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aznedvin wrote:
hmmm I always thought they didn't put blackie on the artist series since it is on the replica of the actual "BLACKIE." Yes it is possible that someone may have scratched it out. Does it still have Clapton's signature on it though?


It has not been altered. I appreciate the speculation, but I believe there is a real explanation out there. I can find other examples on ebay where "blackie" is not there on black artist series.


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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:55 am
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I would call or E-mail Fender with the serial number; but as far as I know you have a Artist Series; I don't think Blackie came around till after that but I'm not sure; or it it even was around so it appears you don't have a Blackie.
Why anyone would remove the Blackie designation thus screwing themselves outta a proper resale value is beyond me...that's like putting a F-250 bage on your Lotus.


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called Fender and gave them serial number. They were not able to explain why "blackie" is not there, but said per product details they have, there is no indication that it should be there.

Not going to worry about it. The guitar is real. I'll consider it "special" and jack up the price if I sell it!

Thanks for the input.


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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 4:09 pm
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Wait a minute...Fender tells you that the Blackie isn't part of the guitar description but you're going to sell it and say it's supposed to be there but isn't and charge more? Isn't that a lie and aren't you just ripping someone off? That's not something I'd brag about.

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cryingstrat wrote:
Wait a minute...Fender tells you that the Blackie isn't part of the guitar description but you're going to sell it and say it's supposed to be there but isn't and charge more? Isn't that a lie and aren't you just ripping someone off? That's not something I'd brag about.


Wow! Tough crowd. You misinterpreted that. What I am saying is having "blackie" appears to be more common. Typically, less common equals worth more. No lies. No deception.

You may not like it, and you may not agree. OK.


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AKAPETCHY wrote:
cryingstrat wrote:
Wait a minute...Fender tells you that the Blackie isn't part of the guitar description but you're going to sell it and say it's supposed to be there but isn't and charge more? Isn't that a lie and aren't you just ripping someone off? That's not something I'd brag about.


Wow! Tough crowd. You misinterpreted that. What I am saying is having "blackie" appears to be more common. Typically, less common equals worth more. No lies. No deception.

You may not like it, and you may not agree. OK.


If I misinterpeted I'm sorry. Fender said there was no indication it should be there yet you say having it there is more common. Even though Fender said it isn't. There are two different Clapton strats. You apparently have the one that doesn't have the "blackie" on it. So how does that make it more common? I'm confused.

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cryingstrat wrote:
AKAPETCHY wrote:
cryingstrat wrote:
Wait a minute...Fender tells you that the Blackie isn't part of the guitar description but you're going to sell it and say it's supposed to be there but isn't and charge more? Isn't that a lie and aren't you just ripping someone off? That's not something I'd brag about.


Wow! Tough crowd. You misinterpreted that. What I am saying is having "blackie" appears to be more common. Typically, less common equals worth more. No lies. No deception.

You may not like it, and you may not agree. OK.


If I misinterpeted I'm sorry. Fender said there was no indication it should be there yet you say having it there is more common. Even though Fender said it isn't. There are two different Clapton strats. You apparently have the one that doesn't have the "blackie" on it. So how does that make it more common? I'm confused.


Hi CRYINGSTRAT-

Sorry I have confused you. Poor attempt at light hearted humor on my part. Not going to debate you. My question has been answered, so I will exit this exchange now.

Have a nice day.


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Post discussion: I could swear I've recently seen EC Blackie strats with "Blackie" on the back of the headstock as well!?!?


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Strataholic wrote:
Post discussion: I could swear I've recently seen EC Blackie strats with "Blackie" on the back of the headstock as well!?!?


There's probably more to it. Fender doesn't always keep the best records on small changes in a product line.

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cryingstrat wrote:
Strataholic wrote:
Post discussion: I could swear I've recently seen EC Blackie strats with "Blackie" on the back of the headstock as well!?!?


There's probably more to it. Fender doesn't always keep the best records on small changes in a product line.


Keeps it fun an interesting. To the OPs' point though... if Blackie is missing a marking that it should have, this could only serve to increase the value of the instrument.


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