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Post subject: Re: oscillating G string
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:14 am
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Mine was on the low e and it didn't go away until I had the neck replaced (for other reasons). Not very helpful but throwing it out there as a data point.

It was interesting in that you could watch the oscillation go up and down the low e. Probably some interaction with the way the body and neck resonate.


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Post subject: Re: oscillating G string
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:56 pm
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Possibly the trem springs are vibrating, causing the noise. Try putting some foam inside the springs to dampen their vibrations. Check YouTube for videos.

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Post subject: Re: oscillating G string
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:22 pm
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Take this suggestion with a grain of salt from a n00b guitar player but someone with 20+ years of scientific experience. :) Have you tried adding (or removing) a trem spring and then retuning?

When there's an issue in a resonant system my first thought is how can I alter the equilibrium that's in effect.


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Post subject: Re: oscillating G string
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:38 pm
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Again all good thoughts, thanks, but I've tried them all except replacing the neck. I'm going to string it with a D and or a B in the G string position to see if I get that oscillating sound if I don't then, and correct me if I'm wrong, I will know it's how the body and neck resonate. ( I'm pulling at straws here ).
At one time blamed it on the CS Fat 50's... the poles are staggered and pretty high on the D and the G... I thought the magnet was pulling the string, I yanked the Fat 50's out and there it was... the oscillating sound was still there. I'm so mad at myself for not hearing it when I bought the guitar but I was enamored with the Fat 50's.


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Post subject: Re: oscillating G string
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:33 am
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Hi again,

If you've tried everything suggested, I'd go back to Fender. After all, by guitar standards, it's almost new, isn't it? And it is definitely faulty, from what you say.

I had a problem with a badly cut nut on a Custom Deluxe in the first year and Fender UK fixed it for me. No quibbles at all - they fitted a new one. I could've also taken it back to the dealer, who would've had to ask Fender to do the same thing - I just cut out the middleman.

I don't know how warranties work in the States but can't be much different, surely?

Cheers - Peter.


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Post subject: Re: oscillating G string
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:23 am
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Here's something you can try if you are using three springs on your tremolo.

If your springs are set up in this way /|\ change to this |||

When set this way /|\ the center spring has less tension then the outside two and can cause a problem sometimes.


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Post subject: Re: oscillating G string
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:09 am
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There's a couple other things you can check.

1- check the truss rod to make sure it is not loose

2- check the saddles, they should be level and rise up in steps. The saddles should not be
tilted.


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Post subject: Re: oscillating G string
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:11 am
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brendangleeson wrote:
I added a 2012 American Strat to my small collection, over all I'm happy with it.....But, I get a weird oscillating sound on the G string that gets more noticalbe the higher I go on the neck. I can hear it even when I'm not plugged into an amp. I also have an American Special and a MIM Strat both were set up by the same guy and play with no problems. The intonation on the G string on the American Standard is a little tempermetal but even when it's bang on there's still that oscillating sound...(like a tremolo sound).
Could it be how the nut was cut? The guitar otherwise sounds great with the Fat 50's but that oscillating sound is driving me crazy.
Any thoughts?

When confronted in the past by oscillating G-Stings, I have tired to fix the the situation by stuffing dollar bills in the strings.

Unfortunately I found that that just made the G-string begin grinding incessantly, but I did like the new tones that were generated.

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Post subject: Re: oscillating G string
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:16 pm
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My original 1996 U.S. Lone Star Strat does this *badly* on the G between about the 10th and 17th frets. I haven't spent a ton of time troubleshooting it, but I have a few other Strats including a U.S. Double Fat Strat. They all exhibit this behavior to some extent. The interesting thing about the Double Fat Strat is that it has a 'bucker in the neck and and its magnets aren't nearly as close to the stings as the Lone Star is. It still has a slight "oscillating" sound.

The phenomenon is call "Stratitis". Google it. I'm convinced there are a few things in play here, including the pickup magents, but overall I believe the inherent scale length and design of the Strat itself are to blame. My shorter scale length guitars including Gibsons and even a Fender Strat-O-Sonic (a shorter scale length Fender) do not exhibit this problem. They are intonated better overall up and down the neck.

In other words, I believe the oscillating effect is primarily caused by the instrument's overall design but is exacerbated by things like pickup pole pieces and other oddities that people have found such as bridge springs, string trees, nuts, etc... I can't really explain why some are worse than others even amoung identical models.


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