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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:57 am
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I have a 1967 Fender Pro Reverb amp and, both a Telecaster and Stratocaster. I have not played much over the past several years and am trying to get back into the swing of things. What effects pedals would be most beneficial for blues and old time rock - a little country, too?


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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:14 am
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I think the wahwah pedal is a must have..


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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:15 am
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Heh... here's a little twist...

None.

Before you start throwing money at the effects pedals, try this little technique out:

Get set the tone, gain, etc on the amp to where it is on the verge of clipping when your guitar's volume pot is around 6. What I mean by this is playing softer on the guitar will give you a clean sound and digging in will give you some overdrive.

When this happens, you get a clean sound when the guitar's volume is less than 6 (4 or 5 tends to be ideal for clean), classic rock and blues crunch at 7 and 8, and wonderful lead at 9 and 10.

This is the way the blues and rock heroes of the 60's and early 70's did things. I found it lets you play more expressively and lets your guitar, your amp and your own playing shine without being overly colored by stomp boxes. Plus, when performing you don't have to do the pedal dance.


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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:18 am
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Oh, that said, wah is a good "extra" to have. And for country "chicken-pickin'" a compression pedal will get you that percussive sound.

But really, you may find that the guitars are good enough without all that extra crap. Just you and your amp, baby!


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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:29 pm
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Ibanez tube screamer. I have a love hate relationship with this pedal but I Hghly suggest using it for the type of music you are playing. Love it because if you know what you are doing you can get tons of different music genres sounds with it. Hate it because I'l spend money on other pedals but always come back to the tube screamer.


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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:45 pm
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I like pedals; but they are a pain! Batteries or wal warts; regulated power supply; pedal board; just more stuff to tote around and keep straight. I bought a Digitech 250 hoping for lots of good effects but you have to sit down with it and program the thing!
I don't like or want amplifier emulation; I HAVE a Marshall DSL so I don't need all that emulation stuff I know there are those that desire those features for what ever reason but it seems you can't get a multi effect pedal without it.
I agree with the others that you should have a wah pedal, maybe a volume pedal too, some compression, and maybe a tremelo (for that "vintage vibe") sound.
Those pros that use tremelo make it sound way cool to my ear; EC and John Forgarty come to mind as well as Jimmy Ray too.
I thought the advice about the volume settings was very informative...


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Breaking up a tube amp is soooo nice - but if you don't want to develop a nasty case of ringing ears....
Overdrive pedal maybe like a TS9 (tube screamer)
Compressor (Boss is good / MXR DynaComp good, but kinda noisy)
Delay (Boss DD-6 / Dan Echo)
Wah - gotta have!
There are tons of options and opinions to go with them - but they all sound juicier through a nice, fat, cranked tube amp :)
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:53 pm
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A wah is a must-have. Delays are nice.

I use a wah, DigiTech Screamin' Blues, DigiTech Chorus, and an old Ibanez Phaser (a PH7, I think). The chorus and phase are used mostly when playing rhythm. The Blues and wah mostly for leads.


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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:12 pm
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I play an American Strat through a DRRI. I use a Fulltone Fulldrive Mosfet for overdrive and leads. It has two foot switches, overdrive and boost, and they can be set independently. This is the best sounding overdrive stompbox I've found. However, it still takes away from that beautiful tone of playing straight into the amp. A nice clean boost in front of it gives some great distortion though. I don't know what to tell you. No stompbox that I've found (overdrive/distortion)will sound as good as playing straight into a really good tube amp. I think I'll just have to get a Marshall or VOX all tube combo and an A/B switch.
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:36 pm
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Agreed!
I usually play through my old POD 2.0 and use the '65 Deluxe Reverb Blackface model & some compression & delay to taste (which is fattened up nicely through my slightly tweaked '65 DRRI...go figure). But to hear a really good tube amp sing...I get choked up just thinking about it... :wink:

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Jacobthebluesman wrote:
I think the wahwah pedal is a must have..


I second the wah pedal... and to think that it was discovered by "mistake" when a VOX engineer was trying to build a foot-operated tone control!

I think most players would agree, wah is a must... I own four different models... 535q, classic, Roland V-Wah, Clyde McCoy.


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Post subject: Re: effects pedals
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:46 pm
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Jerry Ashcraft wrote:
I have a 1967 Fender Pro Reverb amp and, both a Telecaster and Stratocaster. I have not played much over the past several years and am trying to get back into the swing of things. What effects pedals would be most beneficial for blues and old time rock - a little country, too?


The Wah Pedal is a must, not just for the Wah Wah effect but also as a tone control. Many guitar men between the 60's through the 80's often set the pedal to a certain tone then played through it rather than rocking back and forth on it.

I have a solid state amp. I purchased a very low cost tube preamp from ART called the MP Project Tube Microphone/Instrument Preamp. It's half the price of an Ibanez Tube Screamer but contains an actual 12AX7a tube with a gain and volume control. Though it isn't marketed as an overdrive it functions wonderfully in that capacity. It also has a 20 dB gain boost switch, +48v Phantom power, a limit switch and a phase switch. It's a great tool to warm up your sound. The tube breakup at high gain is really great!

For country, blues or rockabilly you will deffinately want a tremolo and compressor or the preamp listed above in the place of a compressor. For some Jimi Hendrix or David Gilmour tones you'll want an Electro-Harmonics Electric Mistress which is a Flanger/Chorus pedal.

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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:53 am
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Ibanez TS9 Tube Screamer Important to good sound :wink:


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Wah, ts-808 / ts-9 are useful, and for me I like the effect of a whirling Leslie.

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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:38 am
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As amply indicated above, the first and most important job is to learn to get a great sound from the guitar and amp by themselves. And learn to "drive" the amp from the guitar, ie, use the volume knob to produce more or less grit from an amp set around the break-up point. Don't just play with the volume wide open all the time: this is something that separates the grown-ups from the kiddies. You'll seldom see a pro touch his/her amp, once the show's started. In-flight adjustments are made on the instrument.

However. Once you do want some effects, and before you start spending the family inheritance on boutique boxes, a very excellent beginning unit is the Boss ME-50. It contains 22 different drive/distortion options, including perfectly reasonable emulations of most of the famous ones. Worth it for that alone. Plus all the rest of your chorus, vibrato, delay, wah, compression and reverb options. And crucially, it is not an amp simulator, so you are not masking your fundamental amp sound.

As a point of departure, I suggest it is by far the best value for money out there (approx. $290), and will get you a good long way down the road, till you're ready to spend the BIG bucks.


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