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Post subject: HELP. 62 Re issue. Pots and switch as FENDER off Ebay.
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:43 am
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I purchased pots and switch from Stratosphere as an official 2008 Fender 62 reissue.

The pots are mini pots-250 and the capacator is green. Exactly as the one in my Emporor II Joe Pass.

Did Fender ever use Gibson parts?.....or Gibson size pots and capacator?

I can actually see where there was a fouth pot attached to the three.

...what do I have. I don't want to install if they are not right. They have not responded. All my Fenders have CTS pots, even the MIJ one.

I should think that Fender would be upset about someone representing them...the parts even came in a baggie, not a Fender package. Even though it's Ebay, they are still under the guise of all Federal Laws governing shipments across State lines...

They are MIJ...supposedly, but nothing to say that either. Whats the deal here?


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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:53 pm
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I'm not sure what you have there, but I can tell you that Fender has stopped selling CTS pots as replacement parts and I can only assume they have stopped using them in their guitars also. I purchased a couple of 500K split post pots and tele dome knobs to go with them and after wiring together a guitar that I practically put together from scratch, I attempted to push on the knobs only to have the post of the pot push right through the back of it. They say "made in Taiwan" right on the packaging. I must say I am very disappointed with Fender's quality control as of late (the past 6 years or so). I would take a look at the listing you purchased and see if you got what was pictured there. I have dealt with stratosphere (reliablefender) a number of times and have always gotten what I paid for, so I would assume that they sent you what Fender is putting in their guitars. I don't know if maybe there was a ground wire that they disconnected.... I don't know. I hate to have to make excuses for Fender because I used to manage a Fender showroom and I always had such faith in what I sold and what I promised my customers, but I must say they haven't been the same lately.

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Post subject: FENDER QUALITY
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:43 am
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Your right about both the quality and service.

I am selling my Fender, except for the one I rebuilt with all American components, including comerical wire....If they don't have it posted forget help.

I had an orginial 62 MIJ, but someone took the neck off and swapped it out with a 94 Mexican one...LOL! Stratosphere sent me a replacement set of and it was the newer Alpha ones...with the neweer in line 5 way...like the old Hot Rodded MIJ. They are good people there and will take them back...

I'm just putting the Strat back to all CTS and Standard American PUs and set up.

On another note: I got a Gibson/epiphone 97 Joe Pass and they bent over backwords to get me a wireing diagram, etc. Love it and sorry that Fender doesn't make anything like this guitar or the ES models...

Fender is suffering the same problem as everyone: Expanded growth and sudden increased cost ratios...so, less customer service unless your a star or buy a 2k plus custom model and outsourceing to China, which has the WORST mass produced electronics in the entire world. Korea and Japan are still #1 and 2 and the US 3 in quality. ON guitar componests: I have found USA #1, Japan and Korea just behind. WE STILL DO IT BEST!

I don't believe in the Global Economic solution to anything -it is why your dollar is so weak and the price of petrol is where it is. The weak dollar has a LOT to do with it.....we need to take care of our own first and formost.....buy American or from at least an American friend.....if you can...LOL! Fender does offer a host of products and prices to chose from.

Stratosphere has some very good CTS pots....get the old style with the raised outside ridge. I put one in my Joe Pass temporally and it sounds better than the rest...if the bushing was longer, I'd put all CTS Fender pots in it....LOL! God, it cleaned up the entire bridge pickup...CLEAN...they still sound best and the 250s produce a much cleaner sound than the 500s, which you realy don't need unless you have a humbuckler or play metal.....


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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:53 pm
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I couldn't agree with you more as far as buying American. I try to whenever I can. That being said, I just dropped more money on a Korean Tele than I would have paid for an American Standard 10 years ago. If I could have found something of equal quality from the US for under a grand I would have jumped at the chance, but unfortunately I don't foresee that happening any time soon. As far as the 500K VS 250K pots, I like to play around with different combos. Sometimes a 500 volume and a 250 tone is the best way to go. You still have the greater output, so string dynamics aren't compromised, but the 250 sort of softens the tone so it's not too extreme.
By the way the Tele is a set neck, mahogany neck/body tele with a spalted maple top and real Duncan Humbuckers ('59 in the neck and Pearly Gates in the bridge, with a push pull tap). I guess as long as Fender keeps putting out great guitars I'll keep buying them. Now I just have to find some decent pots to toss in this one!

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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:23 am
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Agreed, but you can also alter the tone with changing out capacitors... .47 has a nice deep tone....etc. .22 standard.

I like Gibsons 300 pots...can't find a CTS 300 though...always wondered how they would sound on a strat.

Tele...Those Korean and Japan Fenders are a LOT for the money...and the older the better to be honest.....Even the Gibson Korean s are twice the quaility for the money. The old Japan ones...aged well also.

That is the strong point Fender went for: To cover all markets with economics of the end user considered. The $99 China neck is worth the Guitar sadly....how do you compete with a Govt. owned, shipped and supported company? It would be considered a monopoly here and illegal. Imagine: You own the labor force from begining of all componets, own the shipping lines, own the containers they are moved in....we could compete if we were able to do that...but then, there goes competition....like the Oil companies. They actually have a monopoly as does the Power industry, but that is regulated....anyway....Fender is provided a way to play for everyone.....


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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:39 am
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CTS 300k Vintage pots:

http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/elec ... tspots.htm

http://www.torresengineering.com/guitvolpot.html

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Er, I hesitate to intrude on this, but some of the wider economic points mentioned are disputable, to say the least.

Were you to visit the Special Economic Areas in China, such as Guangzhou and Shanghai, you'd find manufacturing vastly different than the Communist state-owned monopoly you seem to be imagining. A private-owned wild-west free-for-all would be closer to the mark.

Many "western" companies, amongst which I include the likes of Yamaha as well as Gibson, actually own their facilities in these places, rather than subcontracting. I don't happen to know if that applies to Fender - but I bet it does. After all, they got in very early on this economic model when they set up Fender Japan all those years ago.

Also, the weak dollar, cited earlier, distinctly benefits domestic American manufacturing, rather than the converse. Good for exporters, bad for importers.

There, that's my bit. I'm sure you will now wish to shoot me down.

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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 4:45 pm
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Ceri wrote:
Er, I hesitate to intrude on this, but some of the wider economic points mentioned are disputable, to say the least.

Were you to visit the Special Economic Areas in China, such as Guangzhou and Shanghai, you'd find manufacturing vastly different than the Communist state-owned monopoly you seem to be imagining. A private-owned wild-west free-for-all would be closer to the mark.

Many "western" companies, amongst which I include the likes of Yamaha as well as Gibson, actually own their facilities in these places, rather than subcontracting. I don't happen to know if that applies to Fender - but I bet it does. After all, they got in very early on this economic model when they set up Fender Japan all those years ago.

Also, the weak dollar, cited earlier, distinctly benefits domestic American manufacturing, rather than the converse. Good for exporters, bad for importers.

There, that's my bit. I'm sure you will now wish to shoot me down.

Cheers!


I'm pretty sure Fender only operates in the US , Mexico and (as you pointed out) Japan. Most of the Fender Japan Guitars are for domestic sale only (Domestic to Japan) 90% of the Korean guitars are made by Samick and up until recently they didn't really import any guitars from China. The big shift to China began very quickly after the tsunami wiped out nearly the entire manufacturing center in Indonesia, where they had been contracting their "affinity" line, as well as the economy level acoustics along with a number of other brands such as Yamaha and Alvarez.
As far as the weak dollar benefiting domestic manufacturers, it is true to an extent. Certainly, if foreign currency has more buying power, then American made products become more economical to purchase.
You're also correct about the market in China. There are areas that are almost the equivalent of early 20th century US as far as the free-market (pre labor movement).

Good to know there are other musicians out there who pay attention to what's happening in the world.

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