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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:19 pm
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I have always played by ear, or watching someone else play it

I spent a few hours on YouTube earlier this evening - its amazing some of the stuff you can see on there - I dont know why anyone would ever pay for guitar lessons with that available - there is anything and everything you would want to learn available on there - just gotta search for the right thing and there it is!

Anyone else take advantage of this? Whats your thoughts on YouTube?

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I use both tabs and by ear when learning songs.


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Sounds like even Hendrix couldnt copy Hendrix.


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asg brought up a good point with using youtube or even DVD's for that matter. Many times I'll study the hand position of Clapton, Mayer, SRV, etc...and compare it to how I am playing it. Funny how you pick up a few hand position pointers from doing this.


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That's the thing that I was saying previously.

I pick on piano because there is one way to do it (maybe with a bit of finess or musicality but still). The notation could be "hit key 12 now hit keys 15, 17, 19, now hit this key...". Add timing and you embody the piece. Not to belittle pianists (as I can't play one to save my life) but the simplicity of the instrument is well reflected in how simple graphic notation can embody basically the entire piece to almost exactness.

Guitars, alternatively, are complex and variable instruments. The same note can be played in several places. You can slide up or down to a note. You can do things to a note that a piano can't do (bend, trill, waver). You can use natural, artificial, or pinch harmonics. You can use a tremolo system that affects all six strings. Etc. and so on. Standard and tablature notation can't completely embody these. Actually, tablature notation could if it were being faithfully transcribed based upon the artists actual performance.

Ah, but most tablature notation is some other guitarists understanding of what he/she thinks is how the original guitarist accomplished the task. This can end up with incorrect notation. I just watched the "Professor Satchafunkilus and the Musterion of Rock" DVD and they almost intentionally show how Joe plays the first part of the "Crushing Day" 'solo' in three different settings not with the open strings but on the upper strings at a position further down the neck. It's almost like they are saying, "You know that tab book for 'Surfing with the Alien', well that guy guessed poorly - hah!"

Point being made: seeing is learning. By ear is you guessing how the song is played. Any notation is someone else telling you how they guess the song is played. Unless you can get private lessons with the original guitarist, seeing him/her play is the closest thing to exactness. I'm not knocking any method (as noted). When all else fails, by ear is a great approach. When notation is involved, use it as a general blueprint but listen to see where the notation might be incorrect or less accurate. If you have the luxury and happenstance of clear video - use it!

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I will listen to the song everyday for like a week... All day long...

Then when I can hum it in my sleep I use a combo of playing by ear and tab to working out.


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asg wrote:
I have always played by ear, or watching someone else play it

I spent a few hours on YouTube earlier this evening - its amazing some of the stuff you can see on there - I dont know why anyone would ever pay for guitar lessons with that available - there is anything and everything you would want to learn available on there - just gotta search for the right thing and there it is!

Anyone else take advantage of this? Whats your thoughts on YouTube?


I'm a newbie... and a YouTube addict. You're absolutely right... there is a LOT that can be learned there. I spend hours watching videos over and over until I get a song down... then move on to the next. 8)


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