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Post subject: What Amp / Effects for my Strat?
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:29 pm
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I just bought an American Deluxe Strat (My first real expensive guitar :) ) and I purchased a Line 6 Spider III Amp to go with it. The problem is the Amp has issues and I am sending it back for something else. So, what is the best sounding Amps for these guitars and what type of effects pedals is best. I like to play a lot of Pink Floyd but also Green day, Nirvana, etc so it needs to be flexible for my needs. My budget is only about 600.00 - 700.00 dollars (I blew it all on the guitar!). Any advice is appreciated.


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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:02 pm
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Most of those guys play through Marshalls so I may suggest just that. I own a line 6 and I often find Volume issues. Though with marshall it's not digital so it'll stay where you leave it.


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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:14 am
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I'd suggest first getting a good tube amp. Try a variety of them with different tubes. After you have a good amp, decide which effects you want. You might want to go with a multi-effects unit ?

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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:18 am
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I sugest a VOX valvetronix they run from $259-$579 A great AMP. 15 watts or 100 watts. 11 effects to choose from and 11 amp modules.

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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:31 am
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I have to agree with Miami Mike.

You have one of the finest guitars made and tonal options for miles, why ugly it up with a digital lifeless amp ????

Get a Fender tube amp and build up a pedal board for adding the grunge and delay type stuff you will need for floyd, however you will have the basics for great tone as a base to start with.

if you start off with digital mush were to you go from there ?????
you shure cant clean it up and make it sparkle when you so desire.


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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:58 am
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Definately a tube amp, it gets the best out of a strat. A buddy of mine's got a Peavey transtube, that's a like a semi-tube (tube-transistor) amp and it sounds real good with a strat. You don't really need any effects with a strat and a tube amp, but that's me. Once I said that and all the guys nearly beat me up... Ok, maybe you would need a wah pedal... But nothing more.


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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:05 am
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I use a Fender American Strat wired through a Fender Twin Reverb amp. The effects I use is a boss distortion pedal, and a modded cry baby wah wah pedal. I also have a pod that I like to use, but those are just my personal favorite settings.


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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:36 am
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you might want to either try a Peavey valveking, or a peavey windsor.

those are some nice, inexpensive tube amps.

the main problem is that the windsor is a single channel amp, so any change in tone you would want would have to come from effects.

try hughes and kettner also, they are very good amps.


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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:02 pm
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Check it out, play the soundbites:

http://www.fender.com/products/amplifiers/superchampxd/


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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:40 pm
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Looks like I lucked out when I was sold the Fender Super Champ XD. Thanks for that little link. I am pleased with my purchase.


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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:21 pm
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Yeah, I agree with bananafingers. I bought a Super Champ XD and that thing is awesome. You can get a variety of tones out it, like you've indicated, but you also don't have to pay the price for getting all those tones. I would also recommend the footswitch for the thing as well. Also if you can spend a little more I would recommend a seperate overdrive/distortion and a wah. Just for a little more versatiliy.


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You guys are killing me with all of this talk about the new Champ amps from Fender, you know I'm gonna have to go check one out now.

I fell for it with the champion 600 and bought one, however it just didnt really live up to the hype and back it went.

then there is the whole not made in the U.S.A. thing !!!!
yes I know its rare but I am still a proud American.

I would rather buy a Mexican made product than to send money to China !!!


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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:37 pm
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The Champion 600 and the Super Champ and Vibro Champ are not the same thing. The Champion 600 is a solid state amp. The Super Champ and Vibro Champ are hybrids. They have tubes but a solid state preamp (the distortion portion). Check it out on the Fender website under the Amps section under the "Vintage Modified" section. I promise you the Super Champ XD is a great amp and worth the money. At 300 dollars you really can't go wrong with an amp with these specs. If you get the chance try one out and you'll know what we're talking about.

Secondly, outsourcing manufacturing is not a bad thing. Open up any Economics 101 text book and you'll understand. Basically outsourcing helps keep American consumers happy and can work to keep America (as far as opportunities and quality of life) ahead of 90% of the world.


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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:40 pm
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For $600, I'd say get one of the amps from Marshall's MG series. It's solid-state, but has a great tube-emulation feature. For $600 you can get the 100w half-stack, but I honestly think it's overkill unless you gig regularly in larger venues. More practical is probably Marshall's 50w combo.

The MG series also has some digital effects built in which should be fine until you build up a pedalboard. That said, I think the Strat with the amp by itself is amazing.

One of the tricks with a Strat and Marshall setup is not always having your volume and tone "dimed-out" to 10. I set my amp with a moderate amount of gain on the distortion channel and then do the following: For clean tones, I have my volume around 4. For slight distortion that will sound clean with a soft touch and distorted with heavy touch, I have the volume around 6. For more constant dirty rythm playing I'll have the volume at 8. For solos, I turn it up to 10.

This is the sort of thing a lot of the rock gods of yore did in the 60's and 70's when there weren't as many options for effects. There's something real organic about that kind of simple setup.


At any rate, I use the 15-watt Marshall MG combo for my practice amp. When I perform, I usually go direct using SansAmp's GT2 pedal on a Marshall-like setting. I've also got a 60-watt Peavy Transtube amp for live situations. Later on this year, I'm going to up grade to one of the performance-level MGs (either the half-stack or 50-watt combo).

Oh, both the MG series and the SansAmp pedals are great for recording direct.


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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:45 pm
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I have to agree with Miami Mike, go to your local music store and play them all. My preference is a quality tube amp and you can get a Fender in your budget. It is all personal preference though. You have an awesome strat and why muck it up with a digital amp.
Good Luck. 8)

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