Hi Guys,

This is my first topic, I would like to get talent of somebody..

I have an own build guitar:
- Ash stoptail Fender Strato Body from 80's.
- Maple American Neck (with Gold Fender logo) Serial number: DZ5154776 - 2005

My problem is:
When I hold an E minor on fret 7, I hear a really strange sound from my neck..
I tried to setup my truss rod and I shocked:
I loosed my neck's truss rod I did not hear that strange sound, and when I started to tense it I heard again. I knocked my neck's back and I realized the Truss-rod made this strange -knocking- sound. It hears (I do not know why) Truss rod can knock on it place, "Hole".
I started to set up my neck again, and I experienced:
Start to tense - I heard that aprox. fret 4.
Tense again - I heard aprox fret 7. .. and so on.

After that I looked forward a schematic about a fender neck. I found this drawing:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/ ... rint-1.jpg

Is this neck blueprind drawings right? Who's know?

If that drawing right and my theory is Ok, I think the small anchor can move in my truss rod hole.. but why and how? ..

What's going on? How can I stop that?

I love my guitar.. and I do not want to change my neck.

Thanks for all help!! Please, If somebody have a good idea don't waste the time, write down! Thanks again!

Cheers,
Sztiv

(I am so sorry for my bad English..)

This guitar is from the American Deluxe Series
made at the Corona Plant (Fender), USA
in the Year(s): 2005

The drawing you have is for a standard truss rod . Modern American Deluxe neck have the biflex truss rod. It is two rods in the same unit , not only one like your drawing
Biflex can pull or push on the neck. Your truss rod must always be in tensioning

http://www.fender.com/support/articles/ ... -truss-rod

Thank you!

okay.. but what is this strange sound and How can I stop it?

It seems metallic sound..

Hey!

If I saw well, you had the same problem!!
" I had the same problem with my trust rod, A 1995 Strat buy used. American Standard and maple neck too.
It takes time and many adjustments to have the right relief for me, close to .12 without the buzz with the trust rod. But now it OK.
Yes it take few months with almost weekley adjustments

I have many Strat, I know very well how to adjust trust rod and I have many precision tools from Stewarts Mac.
It's the first one I had this problem. " I found it an earlier post.
(Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:59 am)

How can you stop this buzz/rattle?? I think this is my problem too!!

The Bi-Flex is a dual-action single rod, not a double rod. The blueprint shows a Bi-Flex.

When you unscrew the adjuster far enough it hits the inside of the walnut cylinder (part # 13 "drilled dowel" on the blueprint). That forces upward pressure on the neck, increasing relief. The anchor under the 7th fret (part # 4 on the blueprint) keeps the rod from breaking the skunk stripe when increasing relief.

Regular rods (like on MIM Stds) don't have the walnut cylinder or the 7th fret anchor. On those, you can unscrew the adjuster completely and remove it. (And the only way to increase relief is to use heavier strings.)

Some rods rattle -- regular rods, Bi-Flex's, even real double-rods (like Warmoth's optional double rod). There's no real fix. The amount of tension varies the rattle -- you can either settle for less-than-ideal relief and try to find an amount of tension that reduces/eliminates the rattle, or change the string gauge (heavier strings require more tension on the rod, lighter strings need less tension).

Sometimes the rattle goes away on its own. As necks shrink & swell with seasonal humidity, the truss rod channel can get tighter or looser. Tighter makes the rod stop moving, looser lets it vibrate without hitting the channel.

Hey!

If I saw well, you had the same problem!!
" I had the same problem with my trust rod, A 1995 Strat buy used. American Standard and maple neck too.
It takes time and many adjustments to have the right relief for me, close to .12 without the buzz with the trust rod. But now it OK.
Yes it take few months with almost weekley adjustments

I have many Strat, I know very well how to adjust trust rod and I have many precision tools from Stewarts Mac.
It's the first one I had this problem. " I found it an earlier post.
(Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:59 am)

How can you stop this buzz/rattle?? I think this is my problem too!!

---sztv
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You do a good reserach !

It"s the same problem ? Maybe. I'm fench speaking and it is not easy to understand english , I could miss something in your question.

I resolve my problem with adjusting properly many many time the neck's truss rod. After few months everything is fine.

strayedstrater, I think you are right, this is a biflex. The rod can push or pull the cylinder.

Hi Guys!!

Thank you Very very much!!

I guess what is my guitar's problem. As I cure it, I'll write my report!

Cheers
Sztív

My guitar wich had this problem have a standard truss rod , not bi-flex like you're. Is in make eaier to adjust you're ? maybe

" I had the same problem with my trust rod, A 1995 Strat buy used. American Standard and maple neck too."

"My guitar wich had this problem have a standard truss rod , not bi-flex like you're."

I'm confused. Did that '95 Amercan Standard have a replacement neck instead of its stock Bi-Flex neck?

Original neck , I my opinion 1995 American Standard do not have the bi-flex truss rod. Do you think I'm wrong ?

All American Standards have Bi-Flex's, ever since they were introduced in '86/'87. (When the American Series temporarily replaced the AmStds, they had Bi-Flex's too.)

Did it have the walnut cylinder with the hole that's just a little bigger than the wrench? (That's not complete proof -- Highway 1's have the walnut cylinder but they don't have the anchor under the 7th fret, so if you use the rod to increase relief you run the risk of popping the skunk stripe loose. But an AmStd neck with the walnut cylinder has the Bi-Flex rod.)

strayedstrater you are right . Thank's

www.fender.com/support/articles/bi-flex-truss-rod

IMO if the truss rod is in the neutral position ( not pushing or not pulling the neck ) it could vibrate and make noise. Better to keep nut just a little bit thight in concave or convexe bow as you need.
IMO better to be in concave bow.

http://www.fender.com/support/articles/ ... -truss-rod