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Post subject: fake or not ?
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:28 am
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hej guys, some help needed.
Got some pictures from a 2nd hand SRV strat, it looks like new...
all the pictures look ligit exept this logo ...

If you zoom in, you can see the fender logo is like a sticker...
Also a piece of the F at the bottom is missing ...
is this fake or not ?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/32755343/srv/IMGP5226.jpg


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Post subject: Re: fake or not ?
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:33 am
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that is normal for that model, and it is fairly common for tiny bits of the decal to be rubbed off. they are done the same way on the vintage reissues and several other signature models.

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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:58 am
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somebizarredude wrote:
that is normal for that model, and it is fairly common for tiny bits of the decal to be rubbed off. they are done the same way on the vintage reissues and several other signature models.


I have seen some guy recreating the same fake logo's like that.
Think it was on this forum.

The seller from what i can see from email looks friendly and all, I can go test it,
but the problem there is no invoice present (and no certificate also I assume).
and its a lot of money for 2nd hands guitar :)

With so many fakes out there i think its always better to ask some experts on this forum (I suppose) :)

there are all other pictures :

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/32755343/srv/IMGP5213.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/32755343/srv/IMGP5226.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/32755343/srv/IMGP5227.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/32755343/srv/IMGP5229.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/32755343/srv/IMGP5230.jpg


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Post subject: Re: fake or not ?
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:57 am
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If it is fake its a beauty. Looks fine to me. How much they asking?


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Post subject: Re: fake or not ?
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:58 am
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4ntiClock wrote:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/32755343/srv/IMGP5228.jpg

Hi 4ntiClock: I have no particular knowledge of the SRV model, so I have limited input on this. But in general, I am seeing nothing to make me immediately doubt the guitar, except that photo of the back of the headstock. Those tuners are installed surprisingly crooked, and that is not typical of Fender's workmanship. I'm looking especially at the second and fifth tuners.

I entered the serial number into the Fender Dater Project website and it returned: Signature Series Strat, made in the Corona factory in 2006. So what you want to do is ask to losen the neck bolts and lift the neck at least halfway out of it's pocket so's you can look at the end of the neck heel and see if the date stamped there matches 2006. That's the sort of detail counterfitters don't seem to run to, so if it tallies it would be a helpful thing in the guitar's favour.

Also, you could email the serial number to Customer Relations and they'll tell you what specs it matches up to. Again, that wouldn't absolutely prove it was real, but it would get you a long way down the road.

For the price, worth taking a bit of trouble.

Good luck - C

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Post subject: Re: fake or not ?
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:08 am
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tbazzone wrote:
If it is fake its a beauty. Looks fine to me. How much they asking?


1200 EUR (=1540 USD)

They go 1729 EURO new here (2210 USD)

It has been like a dreamguitar for me for quite some time, only thing that is really really bothering me on this guitar is the poly finish on body AND beck of the neck (not even satin)


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Post subject: Re: fake or not ?
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:23 am
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4ntiClock wrote:
only thing that is really really bothering me on this guitar is the poly finish on body AND beck of the neck (not even satin)

Hi again 4ntiClock: the SRV is spec'd with polyurethane on body and neck, according to this website. Fender use urethane on nearly all their necks, except vintage reissues and I think a few of the artist models, so your options are a bit limited if you want nitro.

It's easy to turn a gloss neck to satin, if that's useful for you?

Cheers - C

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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:33 am
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Ceri wrote:
4ntiClock wrote:
only thing that is really really bothering me on this guitar is the poly finish on body AND beck of the neck (not even satin)

Hi again 4ntiClock: the SRV is spec'd with polyurethane on body and neck, according to this website. Fender use urethane on nearly all their necks, except vintage reissues and I think a few of the artist models, so your options are a bit limited if you want nitro.

It's easy to turn a gloss neck to satin, if that's useful for you?

Cheers - C


Hej,

I have been searching for that , turning poly neck into satin.
What do you recommend , steel wool 0000 ?

Have you seen what they are asking for this guitar ?
How much will it be worth after doing that to the neck ? :)

Maybe I will do it on my classic player 50...

Nitro finish would be really nice as in "nice to have", but a smooth / satin neck is a must

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Post subject: Re: fake or not ?
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:10 am
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4ntiClock wrote:
I have been searching for that , turning poly neck into satin.
What do you recommend , steel wool 0000 ?

That's a good way. Or if you don't like using steel wool near guitar pickups then P1000 wet-and-dry used dry works just as well. Either way, just enough to gently take the gloss off, and then stop.

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Have you seen what they are asking for this guitar ?
How much will it be worth after doing that to the neck ? :)

Haha - well yes, that's something to think about, for sure. But ultimately a guitar is for playing, and if you don't like how the back of the neck feels that's kinda fundamental, so maybe you have to do what it takes to make it work right for you.

Once the guitar is yours, it's your choice. :)

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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:22 am
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Yeah,

I kinda like to keep everything original :)
And not mess around to much...


What do you guys think of the SRV (this one) ?
Worth the money ?
Or better with a new 2012 standard ?
(fat 50's + satin neck sound appealing, but I don't like the looks)

Or I don't buy any guitar and keep playing my american special or classic player 50 :)

Pffff ... I got gas ....

I'm thinking "If I don't buy a high end guitar ... I will always be looking for something better... so better just buy 1 freaking nice guitar and PLAY more then look at guitars :)
Good tactic no ? :)


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Post subject: Re: fake or not ?
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:50 am
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from the photos it looks dead mint other than the small decal tear.
if it is a fake ( positive its not) its a really god one. most Fake SRV clones don't get the Pau Ferro board correct, this one is. I see them here and there for around $1000 to $1200 US fairly often, so based on the markup in your area it doesn't seem far off the mark to me.
but always offer a bit less :wink: BUT try to get a photo of the underside of the pick guard to make sure the electronics have not been altered.

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Post subject: Re: fake or not ?
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:23 am
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So, it's the real deal :)

Now I'm just wondering between choises ...
- 2012 American Strat
- used SRV for same price as a new 2012 strat here

Also got the possibility for an 2007 american standard that is in mint condition.
(he is asking 2/3rd of the price of a new 2012)
But I've read that post-2008 strats were upgraded and now in 2012 again...
so from what I read is that quality with years really improved.

I should play them all 3 next to eachother but thats not possible :)
Have to drive to 3 different places to test them and 2 of those places are not nearby..

The SRV looks a little outdated with the texas specials you can get on an american special (which I already have but thinking of selling to get a newer one) and gloss poly finish (which I don't like) But it's such a beauty...soooo nice... and I'm an SRV fan :)

arrgh the choises, the horror ...

Someone told me : if you have to pay the same price for a used SRV I would get the new 2012 because they are really good (with those fat 50's and all)

What do you think ?


***update :
just had a little little bit of time with a 2012 strat.
- neck felt ok, maybe little thin, not chunky for sure, but not super smooth for satin finish
(my american special with satin finish feels more smooth)
- sounded a little thin to me but 009 strings.
- setup was great, low action
- it really sings, sustain forever... (this last part made it hard to put it down)

hmmm, I should just go check that SRV out before deciding :)


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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:40 am
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I don't quite see where your comparisons really make an easy choice since all three guitars are quite differently set up.

The SRV stands alone as it is a signature model. this should be a comparison based on wether you like it or not. Not on how it compares to a 2012 American Strat or the 2007 Standard.
The latter two should be compared to each other but the SRV is a guitar all onto itself.

The SRV is neither outdated or new, it is what it is, choose it because of what it is and it works for you, debating on a decision from the standpoint that it isn't this or that isn't sensible.
You don't buy a signature model to mod, for that reason the other two should be where the focus is.....

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The SRV,s neck is completely different than the other two. If you like the feel of the SRV that would be the one I would choose for several reasons. 1. is resell value will always be more and two which is more important is that is the one I like to play the most. You need to play them and decide. Good luck


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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:54 am
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like 53magnatone said, just get what you like. The srv is very different from the standards. the neck will be a bit thicker with a flatter radius and it also has the reverse trem. that's not necessarily a bad thing, you just may not like it. (the trem feels funny to me personally) so when you play it make sure you put the bar in. also the 6 screw vintage bridge has a wider string spacing and isn't as touch sensitive as the 2 point on the standard. the Pau Ferro board will feel a little slicker than rosewood also.

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