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Post subject: Hello, I need help to certify a Stratocaster
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:25 am
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Hello I have acquired a Fender Stratocaster and the truth they have told me that it is not original, but I have sent a mail to fenderiberica@fender.com and I have sent them pictures and they have not answered me the it sends then the day 1 I would like to know where I can inform myself if my guitar is original or nr.
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Post subject: Re: Hello, I need help to certify a Stratocaster
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:15 am
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Youre pictures are too small , We can't see .


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Post subject: Re: Hello, I need help to certify a Stratocaster
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:22 am
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ok, look here:
http://www.subeimagenes.com/img/2012-08 ... 94361.html
http://www.subeimagenes.com/img/2012-08 ... 94362.html
http://www.subeimagenes.com/img/2012-08 ... 94366.html
http://www.subeimagenes.com/img/2012-08 ... 94373.html
http://www.subeimagenes.com/img/2012-08 ... 94374.html
http://www.subeimagenes.com/img/2012-08 ... 94387.html
http://www.subeimagenes.com/img/2012-08 ... 94351.html
http://www.subeimagenes.com/img/2012-08 ... 94352.html
http://www.subeimagenes.com/img/2012-08 ... 94353.html
http://www.subeimagenes.com/img/2012-08 ... 94354.html
http://www.subeimagenes.com/img/2012-08 ... 94357.html


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Post subject: Re: Hello, I need help to certify a Stratocaster
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:23 am
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Bogus IMO.

The numerals in the alleged serial number are comprised of two entirely different fonts and are not equally spaced, the neck's had at least two different types of tuners installed, the bridge saddles are not a Fender product, the pickups do not seem authentic, and on and on. Hang-tags, date stamps, and the like are easily replicated.

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Post subject: Re: Hello, I need help to certify a Stratocaster
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:36 am
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If, the pickups, the tuners, the bridge and the electronics (you also shields) he told me that it had changed them, but the body is it but I miss that this fact of 4 parts and that color doesn't correspond any Standard American that I know.


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Post subject: Re: Hello, I need help to certify a Stratocaster
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:13 am
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Sorry Retroverbial, but for me the tuner are all the same and pickups are same as my original 1995 American Standars Strat . Number 016730 is also same as mine.


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Post subject: Re: Hello, I need help to certify a Stratocaster
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:27 am
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stratele52 wrote:
Sorry Retroverbial, but for me the tuner are all the same and pickups are same as my original 1995 American Standars Strat . Number 016730 is also same as mine.


Did they put your tuners on crooked too?

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Post subject: Re: Hello, I need help to certify a Stratocaster
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:32 am
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Certainly, he told me that the tuners had been changed by some of precision, it is but it is seen that they have been changed, and the pickups for some S.D Antiquity.... that is what told me.


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Post subject: Re: Hello, I need help to certify a Stratocaster
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:55 am
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Pickups with 016730 is a Fender not S. D .


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Post subject: Re: Hello, I need help to certify a Stratocaster
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:02 am
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Yes, i kown, but he say S.D...


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Post subject: Re: Hello, I need help to certify a Stratocaster
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:31 am
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ive seen genuine serial numbers with different fonts and wonky spacing before. im pretty sure the letters and year number are a seperate stamp from the rest of the number, so a batch of necks can all just be stamped at once with the year then chucked in a bin until they're used, and given the rest of the serial number. im sure i read that somewhere.

heres my MIM std strat with different fonts

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Post subject: Re: Hello, I need help to certify a Stratocaster
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:02 am
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I worry about neck less since the documentation it coincides, but the body made of four parts is it that but I worry about.


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Post subject: Re: Hello, I need help to certify a Stratocaster
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:11 am
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i would say fender wouldnt use a 4 part body unless it was being painted over. so i would say either the guitar used to be a solid colour, or its not a fender body.


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Post subject: Re: Hello, I need help to certify a Stratocaster
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:33 am
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It looks like it started life as a 2003 Highway 1 Strat with all the mods that are already discsussed - and it does look like the install of those Schaller (at least I think they are Schaller) locking tuners was a bit dodgy. Just looking at that is a good reason for anyone thinking of putting locking tuners on their American Standard or American Special to use the Fender/Schaller style instead of the generic Schaller style - you might as well use the drop-in replacement and make your life a bit easier.

I wouldn't sweat the body - I'm pretty sure I read somewhere (probably here :wink: ) that early Highway 1s could have a 3- to 5-piece body. It was likely originally a solid color, but the finish on those was very thin and pretty easy to remove. It looks to me like the original finish was stripped by the previous owner.


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Post subject: Re: Hello, I need help to certify a Stratocaster
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:30 am
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John C wrote:
It looks like it started life as a 2003 Highway 1 Strat with all the mods that are already discsussed - and it does look like the install of those Schaller (at least I think they are Schaller) locking tuners was a bit dodgy. Just looking at that is a good reason for anyone thinking of putting locking tuners on their American Standard or American Special to use the Fender/Schaller style instead of the generic Schaller style - you might as well use the drop-in replacement and make your life a bit easier.

I wouldn't sweat the body - I'm pretty sure I read somewhere (probably here :wink: ) that early Highway 1s could have a 3- to 5-piece body. It was likely originally a solid color, but the finish on those was very thin and pretty easy to remove. It looks to me like the original finish was stripped by the previous owner.


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my first thought was it is an early highway one with the nitro stripped off.
those had a nitro top coat but the sealer/undercoat was poly, so this made it an easy task, it could even be done with a buffing wheel.

so i think the body and neck are probably a pair, but as a whole the guitar has been modified way past original.

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