HSS/HSH/HH-splits - what's the ideal super-strat?

chromeface · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:26 am

Route the body for a recessed Floyd Rose trem and drop the original FR. Also, you'll need to replace the plain white pickguard with an aged white pearloid.

These mods will turn your guitar into a Dave Murray sunburst Strat replica.

Toppscore · **Joined:** Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:16 am **Posts:** 2337

chromeface wrote:

Route the body for a recessed Floyd Rose trem and drop the original FR. Also, you'll need to replace the plain white pickguard with an aged white pearloid.
These mods will turn your guitar into a Dave Murray sunburst Strat replica.

Which guitar you discussing ~ the Green Super Strat or the Sunburst HHH Warmoth?

Phunny. Regarding the Green Super Strat, the original seller told me that same,
to change to an original Floyd Rose is the only thing he'd do.

I will have to investigate the pickguard. I never thought
about this guitar being similar to anyone's Strat, much less
Iron Maiden's or Judist Priest or Motorhead or Megadeth or Iron Butterfly's

Toppscore · **Joined:** Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:16 am **Posts:** 2337

I see. The Green Super Strat already has a licensed Floyd Rose Tremolo,
that is apparently different than a original model Floyd Rose.

The Warmoth Sunburst HHH Super Strat has a Fender Tremolo
that you'd think would be better with a Floyd Rose after digging a hole in it.
I'll have to think about that

Arjun_M · **Posted:** Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:58 am

I'd like to see and hear an American Standard Stratocaster with humbuckers at the neck and bridge. Has anyone done such a mod? And taken it further with coil splits? There is that odd video of a Strat with singlecoil-sized humbuckers, but I've yet to find an American Strat that's got two full humbuckers and is not the FSR hand-stained ash variant (which will now be frightfully expensive). That's the kind of guitar I'd like to own, apart from the HM Strat or the Contempo Strat.

So far, the best option I have now is the Jackson DK2M (the only deal-breaker is a used American Standard Strat at a much-reduced price), so the possibility of coil-tapping is something I'm thinking about. Do I need it for the strat tone? Or should I opt for a processor or FUSE preset?

Toppscore · **Joined:** Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:16 am **Posts:** 2337

Arjun_M wrote:

I'd like to see and hear an American Standard Stratocaster with humbuckers at the neck and bridge. Has anyone done such a mod? And taken it further with coil splits? There is that odd video of a Strat with singlecoil-sized humbuckers, but I've yet to find an American Strat that's got two full humbuckers and is not the FSR hand-stained ash variant (which will now be frightfully expensive). That's the kind of guitar I'd like to own, apart from the HM Strat or the Contempo Strat. So far, the best affordable new Fender/Jackson HH/HSH/HSS guitar I can get is the Jackson DK2M, so the possibility of coil-tapping is something I'm thinking about. Do I need it for the strat tone? Or should I opt for a processor or FUSE preset?

Although the following two Super Strats lack Fender wood,
Warmoth wood is top quality. These two guitar should give you an idea:

This Super Strat has three HHH Humbuckers:
Seymour Duncan Hot/Cool/Cool Rails. All three are coil tapped.

Info from the master builder:
* Volume knobs act like a mixer ~ Master volume for all three pickups
* Two (2) additional volume controls. One for both neck/middle pickups; one for the bridge pickup
* Set two lower Volume controls w/subtle volume differences ~ Then Master Volume over both
* It’s like the double volume switching on all Les Paul guitars - all with a master volume.
* Each knob is push/pull as well * Vol 1 - add bridge to all positions on the 5-way
* Vol 2 - single coil neck/middle * Vol 3 - single coil bridge
* Up/Down switch = “in-phase”/“out-of-phase” switch ~ AM Radio sounding on some settings
* Seymour Duncan Pickups – HHH - Hot Rails, Cool Rails, Cool Rails * Humbuckers w/dual blades
* They are all coil tapped.
* Custom Designed Stratocaster Electronics * 3 Humbuckers (splitable)
* Master Volume / Volume for Neck & Middle Pickups / Volume for Bridge Pickup

This Super Strat has 24 Frets and HSH configuration as follows:
DeMarzio Super Distortion III, Guitar Fetish 12k Stacked, DeMarzio Humbucker from Hell

chromeface · **Posted:** Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:55 pm

Toppscore wrote:

Which guitar you discussing ~ the Green Super Strat or the Sunburst HHH Warmoth?

What a silly question...

The sunburst Warmoth HHH, of course!

chromeface · **Posted:** Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:01 pm

Quote:

Info from the master builder:
* Volume knobs act like a mixer ~ Master volume for all three pickups
* Two (2) additional volume controls. One for both neck/middle pickups; one for the bridge pickup
* Set two lower Volume controls w/subtle volume differences ~ Then Master Volume over both
* It’s like the double volume switching on all Les Paul guitars - all with a master volume.
* Each knob is push/pull as well * Vol 1 - add bridge to all positions on the 5-way
* Vol 2 - single coil neck/middle * Vol 3 - single coil bridge
* Up/Down switch = “in-phase”/“out-of-phase” switch ~ AM Radio sounding on some settings
* Seymour Duncan Pickups – HHH - Hot Rails, Cool Rails, Cool Rails * Humbuckers w/dual blades
* They are all coil tapped.
* Custom Designed Stratocaster Electronics * 3 Humbuckers (splitable)
* Master Volume / Volume for Neck & Middle Pickups / Volume for Bridge Pickup

Three volumes, you're joking! :lol:

The two other control knobs are tone pots, the first for the neck and the second for the middle/bridge.

Toppscore · **Joined:** Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:16 am **Posts:** 2337

chromeface wrote:

Quote:

Info from the master builder:
* Volume knobs act like a mixer ~ Master volume for all three pickups
* Two (2) additional volume controls. One for both neck/middle pickups; one for the bridge pickup
* Set two lower Volume controls w/subtle volume differences ~ Then Master Volume over both
* It’s like the double volume switching on all Les Paul guitars - all with a master volume.
* Each knob is push/pull as well * Vol 1 - add bridge to all positions on the 5-way
* Vol 2 - single coil neck/middle * Vol 3 - single coil bridge
* Up/Down switch = “in-phase”/“out-of-phase” switch ~ AM Radio sounding on some settings
* Seymour Duncan Pickups – HHH - Hot Rails, Cool Rails, Cool Rails * Humbuckers w/dual blades
* They are all coil tapped.
* Custom Designed Stratocaster Electronics * 3 Humbuckers (splitable)
* Master Volume / Volume for Neck & Middle Pickups / Volume for Bridge Pickup

Three volumes, you're joking! :lol:

The two other control knobs are tone pots, the first for the neck and the second for the middle/bridge.

Good catch, I think. Should have read Knob 1, etc.
My blunder

Toppscore · **Joined:** Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:16 am **Posts:** 2337

chromeface wrote:

Quote:

Info from the master builder:
* Volume knobs act like a mixer ~ Master volume for all three pickups
* Two (2) additional volume controls. One for both neck/middle pickups; one for the bridge pickup
* Set two lower Volume controls w/subtle volume differences ~ Then Master Volume over both
* It’s like the double volume switching on all Les Paul guitars - all with a master volume.
* Each knob is push/pull as well * Vol 1 - add bridge to all positions on the 5-way
* Vol 2 - single coil neck/middle * Vol 3 - single coil bridge
* Up/Down switch = “in-phase”/“out-of-phase” switch ~ AM Radio sounding on some settings
* Seymour Duncan Pickups – HHH - Hot Rails, Cool Rails, Cool Rails * Humbuckers w/dual blades
* They are all coil tapped.
* Custom Designed Stratocaster Electronics * 3 Humbuckers (splitable)
* Master Volume / Volume for Neck & Middle Pickups / Volume for Bridge Pickup

Three volumes, you're joking! :lol:

The two other control knobs are tone pots, the first for the neck and the second for the middle/bridge.

Damn It!!!!
Now, I have to yank the Sunburst Warmoth out and go throught all of the switching,
just to double check
I spent some time with the builder to get it right and on paper.
For future reference.

The problem with extra guitars and amps, is each one has unique
features and settings and things to do or things to avoid.
My mind is in over drive. I have been thinking about
thinning some items out. Toppscore

chromeface · **Posted:** Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:03 am

Decidedly you're a serious rockin' genius who strive for the ultimate in terms of tonal versatility!

Get a James Tyler Studio Elite!

Toppscore · **Joined:** Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:16 am **Posts:** 2337

chromeface wrote:

Decidedly you're a serious rockin' genius who strive for the ultimate in terms of tonal versatility!

Get a James Tyler Studio Elite!

OK. I am looking at the specs below.
What is it that makes this guitar (and many others) be $4000?

James Tyler never disappoints! What we have here is another truly exceptional instrument. Nothing else really has the "just like home" feeling of a James Tyler guitar. Nothing. Tyler Guitars are absolutely the most comfortable guitars to hold and play. Of course the extreme versatility and great tone don't hurt either.

Features and Specifications of this Tyler Guitars SE HD:
• Hazmat Shmear Semi-Gloss finish
• Mamywo Body
• Quartersawn Maple Neck
• Standard '59 profile (.845 - .975)
• Fret Size .110'' x .055'' (like a 6105)
• 9.5'' - 12'' Compound Radius
• 1 and 11/16'' nut width
• Master Volume Control
• Active Midboost
• Master Tone Control
• Midboost Bypass (on/off) switch
• 5-way pickup selector
• JTS 5500 Singlecoil Pickup (neck)
• JTS 5500 Singlecoil Pickup (middle)
• Tyler Super Humbucker (bridge)
• Deluxe Hardshell Case
• 7lbs, 9oz

chromeface · **Posted:** Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:13 am

Arjun_M wrote:

I'm sure Dave Murray also has one such Strat- the one he uses (shown in the image) has a Floyd Rose, which is not available in the retail version of the same instrument. Reason enough not to choose an Artist/Signature model from any company.

The guitar you're talking about is the same Artist Signature guitar Fender actually produces. It slightly differs from the regular Artist series as it shares many of the features found on the MIJ HST57DM tribute model - such as the Floyd Rose tremolo and the 5-way pickup switch - as opposed to the Kossoff-owned '57/'63 hybrid for which the guitar is based.

Toppscore · **Joined:** Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:16 am **Posts:** 2337

You know, the James Tyler specs are looking
familiar to my Warmoth Strat Supreme.
What do you think?

This Super Strat has three HHH Humbuckers:
Seymour Duncan Hot/Cool/Cool Rails. All three are coil tapped.

Info from the master builder:
* Volume knobs act like a mixer ~ Master volume for all three pickups
* Two (2) additional volume controls. One for both neck/middle pickups; one for the bridge pickup
* Set two lower Volume controls w/subtle volume differences ~ Then Master Volume over both
* It’s like the double volume switching on all Les Paul guitars - all with a master volume.
* Each knob is push/pull as well * Vol 1 - add bridge to all positions on the 5-way
* Vol 2 - single coil neck/middle * Knob 3 - single coil bridge
* Up/Down switch = “in-phase”/“out-of-phase” switch ~ AM Radio sounding on some settings
* Seymour Duncan Pickups – HHH - Hot Rails, Cool Rails, Cool Rails * Humbuckers w/dual blades
* They are all coil tapped.
* Custom Designed Stratocaster Electronics * 3 Humbuckers (splitable)
* Master Volume / Volume for Neck & Middle Pickups / Volume for Bridge Pickup

chromeface · **Posted:** Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:35 am

The Studio Elite features a lead/rhythm circuit with various toggle switches and push-push buttons for coil-tap/split/out of phase/series/parallel sounds. The Demeter mid-boost preamp makes this guitar extremely versatile.

The HD is a streamlined version without the lead/rhythm circuitry. Has the basic features such as the mid-boost preamp with bypass and preset buttons.

The Retro is a regular passive guitar without the active circuit. This model temporarily replaced the Stratocaster-style Classic until its reintroduction in 2011.

Almost all Tylers are made from jelutong (aka Malaysian Mystery Wood/Mamywo).

Toppscore · **Joined:** Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:16 am **Posts:** 2337

chromeface wrote:

The Studio Elite features a lead/rhythm circuit with various toggle switches and push-push buttons for coil-tap/split/out of phase/series/parallel sounds. The Demeter mid-boost preamp makes this guitar extremely versatile.

The HD is a streamlined version without the lead/rhythm circuitry. Has the basic features such as the mid-boost preamp with bypass and preset buttons.

The Retro is a regular passive guitar without the active circuit. This model temporarily replaced the Stratocaster-style Classic until its reintroduction in 2011.

Almost all Tylers are made from jelutong (aka Malaysian Mystery Wood/Mamywo).

Wow! I held my first $5000 Custom Shop guitar a few days ago.
I have not yet grown to appreciate a guitar valued at that price.

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