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Post subject: Classic Player '50s with 57/62 vintage-style single-coils
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:45 pm
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Hello new here and have ? about my recent purchase.
I am the new owner of a Classic Player '50s Fender Strat. This guitar comes with
57/62 vintage-style single-coil pickups, and the middle pup is reverse wound/reverse polarity. Does this mean i should have hum cancelling in positions 2 and 4? Because mine is only hum cancelling in position 4.


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Post subject: Re: Classic Player '50s with 57/62 vintage-style single-coil
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:53 pm
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Early CP 50 s have a unique wiring scheme in which one of the intermediate positions connects the neck and bridge... cant remember if its 2 or 4...


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Post subject: Re: Classic Player '50s with 57/62 vintage-style single-coil
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:01 pm
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oldguy101 wrote:
Early CP 50 s have a unique wiring scheme in which one of the intermediate positions connects the neck and bridge... cant remember if its 2 or 4...


Just checked... position 2 should be hum cancelling and position 4 is neck and bridge. New CP 50 s might have standard wiring...


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Post subject: Re: Classic Player '50s with 57/62 vintage-style single-coil
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:32 pm
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If the combinations are neck + middle and bridge + neck, the RW/RP pickup should be the neck pickup to give noise-cancelling in 2 & 4.

'57/'62's are all the same strength/output so you could just put the middle pickup in the neck position and the neck pickup in the middle position. You'll probably have to extend the wires on the middle pickup so you can move it to the neck position.


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Post subject: Re: Classic Player '50s with 57/62 vintage-style single-coil
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:09 pm
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57/62 pups are not rw/rp middle. i have a set in one of my strats. they hum a bit in each position but not bad if your guitar is properly shielded. i like them.


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Post subject: Re: Classic Player '50s with 57/62 vintage-style single-coil
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:43 pm
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It's true that the regular '57/'62s don't have a RW/RP middle.

But they modified the '57/'62s for the Classic Player '50s -- everything else about them is the same as regular '57/'62s but they have a RW/RP middle.


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Post subject: Re: Classic Player '50s with 57/62 vintage-style single-coil
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:54 am
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Thanks for all the input, these forums are very cool...
I was counting the positions backwards. If position 1 is bridge ( I was counting 1 from Neck pup) then I have hum canceling in pisition 2 (not 4), but still should it not cancle hum it both 2 and 4?
Here are the specs per Fender.

Pickup Configuration: S/S/S
Bridge Pickup: American Vintage Strat® Single-Coil Pickup
Middle Pickup: Reverse Wound/Reverse Polarity American Vintage Strat® Single-Coil Pickup
Neck Pickup: American Vintage Strat® Single-Coil Neck Pickup
Pickup Switching: 5-Position Blade: Position 1. Bridge Pickup, Position 2. Bridge and Middle Pickup, Position 3. Middle Pickup, Position 4. Middle and Neck Pickup, Position 5. Neck Pickup

Thanks agin for any help
ps Love this guitar!!!


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Post subject: Re: Classic Player '50s with 57/62 vintage-style single-coil
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:02 am
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"Pickup Switching: 5-Position Blade: Position 1. Bridge Pickup, Position 2. Bridge and Middle Pickup, Position 3. Middle Pickup, Position 4. Middle and Neck Pickup, Position 5. Neck Pickup"

If yours has that wiring (not the earlier version with bridge + neck instead of middle + neck), then 2 and 4 should be noise-cancelling. You can verify which pickups are working in which switch position by lightly tapping on the polepieces with something made of iron/steel (paperclip, small screwdriver, something like that).

But assuming you do have the wiring listed, then apparently they screwed up and put the RW/RP pickup in the bridge position. Swap the bridge and middle pickups and you'll have noise-cancelling in 2 and 4. (Again, all three pickups are nominally identical except for one being RW/RP.)


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Post subject: Re: Classic Player '50s with 57/62 vintage-style single-coil
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:31 pm
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The non-standard wiring the me at first too, but now I use the Neck&Bridge position the most.
I did end up replacing the pickups with dimarzio "Area 67 and 61" to get hum canceling in all positions, but I never thought about swapping the R/W in the bridge.


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Post subject: Re: Classic Player '50s with 57/62 vintage-style single-coil
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:59 pm
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oldguy101 wrote:
oldguy101 wrote:
Early CP 50 s have a unique wiring scheme in which one of the intermediate positions connects the neck and bridge... cant remember if its 2 or 4...


Just checked... position 2 should be hum cancelling and position 4 is neck and bridge. New CP 50 s might have standard wiring...


WoW you nailed it! I was tapping the polepieces and position 4 is neck and bridge.
So i guess i was sold an old model. Not sure how i feel about that :?

Thanks again for all the input.


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Post subject: Re: Classic Player '50s with 57/62 vintage-style single-coil
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:25 pm
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The current models have that wiring scheme as well. I just purchased one of the FSR Classic Player 50s Strats (which just came out within the past few weeks), and position 4 is neck and bridge on mine as well. At first I wasn't too happy about that, but the more I played it, the more I really liked the sound, which I find very similar to the middle position of a Tele.

For what it's worth, I love this guitar. It plays, looks, and sounds fantastic. My '87 American Standard Strat has been collecting dust since I got this baby, and I don't see that situation changing anytime soon.


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Post subject: Re: Classic Player '50s with 57/62 vintage-style single-coil
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:59 pm
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BlueCajun, is yours noise-cancelling in both the 2 and 4 switch positions, or just the bridge+middle position?


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Post subject: Re: Classic Player '50s with 57/62 vintage-style single-coil
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:06 pm
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Only position 2 (bridge and middle) is noise cancelling, which had a lot to do with my initial disappointment. But like I said, after giving the neck-bridge sound in position 4 a chance, I really like it. And if you don't like it and are handy with a soldering iron, it's an easy fix. Cheers!


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Post subject: Re: Classic Player '50s with 57/62 vintage-style single-coil
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:37 pm
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BlueCajun, thanks for confirming that.

I'm baffled why Fender would put the RW/RP in the middle if the combinations are B+M and B+N. In a three pickup guitar, the pickup that's active in both combination positions should be the RW/RP pickup. In this case, that's the bridge pickup.

Earlier I said the neck should be the RW/RP but that was because of the confusion about the numbering of the switch positions. If you want noise-cancelling in 2 and 4, just swap the bridge and middle pickups


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Post subject: Re: Classic Player '50s with 57/62 vintage-style single-coil
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:49 pm
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I had one of these briefly in 2007, returned it like a dumb@ss.
It was sweet, I was tone deaf then.

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