I have Schaller locking tuners.

But since I don't tend to hug and kiss the headstock, it doesn't bother me at all. We're talking about the fraction of a mm here, right? I cut as close a possible and never had any trouble with it.

Cheers

David

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Agreed. I never saw the point or the value in "fake vintage". Not that I have a problem with re-issue guitars and amps. I just don't "get" the relic part of it. Real vintage? Fine. Wonderful even. Fake vintage? Duh ....

I read recently that Fender's Custom Shop has pretty much been taken over by requests for relic'd guitars and that they're getting really really good at it. I just shake my head. Paying somebody even more thousands of dollars to beat the hell out of your already expensive hand made replica guitar. Proof positive there's very little intelligent life on this planet.

That's my 2 cents anyway.

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Just think of how awesome a guitar player you could have been by now if you had only spent the last 10 years practicing instead of obsessing over pickups and roasted maple necks.

Yeah Beemer, I don't get the relic thing either.

I just bought a new to me neck which has locking Kluson Deluxe tuners on it and I'm happy with how they work but not with how they look. Changing strings is a breeze and very little wire is sticking out of the hole but I really haven't had a concern with the wire ends since my baby boy turned 4 and understood what "don't touch" means.

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Best regards,
rob

Yes! Fully agreed!
And thanx for the additional info about Leo.

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STRATS ROCK!!! but Teles and Firebirds, too!

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Kindest regards from Germany, Dee
My recordings --> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_mu ... dID=564337
STRATS ROCK!!! but Teles and Firebirds, too!

I have Fender/Schaller locking tuners on all my strats, well I just have two strats But I really like them and I have no issue with the strings poking out. Although I do think your idea of cut, retreat, then tighten down the locking mechanism is a good idea, and I think I'll try it next time I change strings. I just like the way they look and the ease of string changes. The vintage Kluson tuners always looked kinda not solid/not sturdy. I'm sure they work just fine, I just never liked the looks of them compared to the more modern, solid looking Schaller locking tuners.

And, I am totally NOT a fan of relicing.

I also take off all strings and clean the fretboard when changing strings. I've always done this and never had a problem. I've heard people say that you should never take off all the strings, and that is just b.s. It won't hurt anything.

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PRS Custom 22 with solid rosewood neck
Mesa/Boogie Electra Dyne 1x12 combo
DRRI

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I don't have a problem with the "modern" style tuners 'cuz I play on the right side of the nut .

+1 babalooga

Sounds very intelligent to me. I guess common sense keeps most people away from the sharp ends.

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Por favor, disculpe mi español, no se llega a la práctica con mucha frecuencia.

Although I'm ok with standard tuners I agree with the rant - I've often wondered myself why Fender stopped using the split design. Seems such a logical way to do it. Cost cutting would be my first guess.

I'm also a big fan of the vintage style split-post Klusons on my Strats: I've got a Custom Shop Custom Classic that's got side-holed staggered height tuners that I find is a total nightmare to restring... the bottom E and A strings no problem, but the D-G-B-E tuning posts are nigh on impossible for my blind eyes and shakey hands to get the string into!

I find the intensity of this thread rather amazing. I never realized how, for lack of a better word, 'passionate' players are about how their strings thread through their tuners.

As always, this is merely IMO where YMMV.

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Lol, my love for Kluson split-post tuners is intense, as is my hatred for the staggered height tuners: I broke my D string at a gig a few weeks back, just a small gig where space was a bit tight so I hadn't brought a spare Strat with me... damned thing went after about the 3rd song, so suddenly there's me trying to thread the proverbial eye-of-the-needle in low light conditions (Mini Maglite torch in mouth), bit of a shake going on from adrenaline and embarrassment, which itself mounted as time went on... took me around 10 minutes to finally get that string threaded through the hole, would have taken me 30 seconds with the Klusons I have on my other 2 Strats!

1st: could be a language thing, I'm no native English speaker.

2nd: some people don't seem to get the point and seem to reduce my post to "cleaning process" and how the strings thread through the poles.
If one would read carefully, there's some more disadvantages about standard tuners to discover in my posts

3rd: given what other players worry about (I repeat myself here), I consider my post as "normal" as others' posts. I don't care about nitro or poly finish, I don't care if my guitar weighs 3.2 or 3.7kg, I don't care about 5 gramms of wood missing, I don't care if there's cloth wires or other wires under my pickguard ....... I do care about convenience, about tuners, about trem arms and if the bridge single coil is connected to the tone control or not..... stuff like that.

Everybody has his/her own preferences.
Some people might not agree or not understand. That's fine. Argueing with logic arguments is fine, too.

But I don't see any reason to kinda "write between the lines" how stupid or overdone my opinion about standard tuners is (at least that's what I think to be able to read between the lines of some posters here). If I get them wrong, I apologize.

There's way more other "opinions" to shake your heads about.

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My recordings --> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_mu ... dID=564337
STRATS ROCK!!! but Teles and Firebirds, too!

Actually, I was NOT referring to you. Rather, I agree with virtually everything you've said. It was the subsequent posts of others which I found fascinating.

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