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Post subject: Re: Blacktop, Special HSS or a Jackson?
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:32 am
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Arjun_M wrote:
Fair, so I may opt for the Blacktop for now, and then upgrade to AmStd-HSS (and fit a neck humbucker then). I may choose one of the HH-FR or HSH variants. The HSH, people say, has the maximum tonal variation of the strats. Then again, does the HH-FR have more sustain? The entire Blacktop range is pool-routed.

That HSH mod for the HH-FR will make a little more sense, then. I may have both the guitar to buy and the mod job to have done. Although, while upgrading, selling it will be a tough ask. But with two Diamondback humbuckers and a Fat 50 (or two Atomic Humbuckers and a Texas Special)- can I get more out of the Blacktop?

I'll pass the Jackson for now- it will be in the running as a second guitar- SLXT, maybe. Or get a luthier to build one like it- if you can't buy it, get it built. An answer to the HH-FR vs HSH puzzle will decide what I ask the dealer to order.


I do not know how the market works there, but in the US generally you never recoupe what the money you spend in upgrades. I always keep the original stock items and reinstall them and keep the upgraded parts if I am selling. Sometimes you will find someone willing to pay extra on the upgrades, but they usually ask for the OEM parts as well.

I cannot remember if I posted this on this thread, but here is my HH Floyd Rose after my mod job.

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Post subject: Re: Blacktop, Special HSS or a Jackson?
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:53 pm
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Its up to the individual, what would be the best buy. All I can say is try playing all the guitars you can get your hands on and see if one picks you. I have a Blacktop Strat and love it but you have to decide for yourself.

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Post subject: Re: Blacktop, Special HSS or a Jackson?
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:24 am
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There is, however, a problem- they're not stocked anywhere in the country and can only be bought on order, which is why I have to ask questions at different places. In the US, every GC (more or less) has these models in stock, so someone can just walk in and test out, and I have to depend on comments from these customers to decide what's ideal. I have shortlisted two Blacktop Strat variants (HH-FR or HSH), but then, I still have a few queries-
  1. An executive from some online retailer said that a Floyd Rose can offer better sustain (because it has more mass) than the regular trem (which absorbs string energy). Does that mean the HH-FR variant sustains longer than the HSH one?
  2. The HH variants, according to users, have much weaker output when in singlecoil mode. Do I get louder singlecoil sound from the HSH?
Answers to these will decide the model I buy or the mod job I need to do.

Alternatively, I may buy just the neck of the Blacktop from Stratosphere, and a Mighty Mite body routed for HSH, and a pickguard with HSH routing, and then have a local tech/luthier fit the electronics and hardware. Maybe this one will sustain more than a pool-routed HSH?


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Post subject: Re: Blacktop, Special HSS or a Jackson?
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:02 am
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Arjun_M wrote:
For a high-gain metal rhythm, do I have to have a humbucker in the neck position? Or at least a HotRails pickup? Or will stacked singlecoils do enough? That's something I'm now thinking of, since I want both metal and clean tones. Maybe it's easier to get metal tones on a guitar which does cleans better (with added gear), than to get clean tones out of a metal-spec guitar? If a second humbucker is needed, which Stratocaster bodies are routed for it? Plenty of classic metal guitars have HSS, and there are a few 22-fret strats (Highway-1, American Special) selling here. The odd Jackson Dinky is somewhere in some warehouse, not in a showroom, so I can't test it out. There's a Blacktop HH regular trem, very good for the task, but I'd still prefer a little more- like a Floyd/Zero.
Yes. Make sure your bridge pickup is a true humbucker.
You will love it.
There are many metal guitars with only one pickup, a humbucker in the neck.
Pretty much for Heavy Metal, look for 24 Frets, one volume control, one tone control,
one humbucker at the bridge. More pickups and in/out phase switching gives more cool options.

I own several Strats with the following pickups:
SSS
HSS
HSH
HHH
H
* The HHH is a Strat with three Seymour Duncan single coil sized Hot Rails humbucker.
* The HSH is a DeMarzio Super Distortion III, a stacked 12k single coil humbucker
at the middle, and the DeMarzio Humbucker from Hell at the neck.
* My "H" is a Seymour Duncan Live Wire active Humbucker. Stands on it's own.

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Humbuckers on Strats are cool. My next guitar will be an HHH ~ all normal sized humbuckers.
Hope this helps. Toppscore :)

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