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Post subject: Re: Got Strats -- Do I Really Need a Tele?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:41 am
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...I'm wondering if I really need the Tele.

Any opinions on whether to keep or sell the Tele?... I know there's no right or wrong answer.. I know what they'll say if I ask this in the Tele forum so I wanted to get some thoughts from Strat guys..


Why even bother with two thirds of a non-contoured, non-tremolo Strat? (Loosely speaking, of course.)

As always, this is merely IMO where YMMV.


Martian, that puts it in perspective pretty well. To me, the Tele is pretty basic -- nice but basic. The Strat just has that look and feel... As someone suggested, I could put a Bigsby on the Tele but, if I wanted to go that direction, I'd be lookin' at a Gretsch with a factory-installed Bigsby.

So, I look at my small collection of guitars and I realize that I don't need a bunch of different types of guitars, at least for my present situation. (Guitar, for me, is a hobby). My areas of interest are surf instrumentals, classic rock, and blues and Strats do fine with those... If my musical interests change, well then I can reexamine my needs..

So, it looks like the Tele is headed for the auction block.. I might even consider doing the same with the Am Deluxe HSS Strat to free up some funds for the next Strat on my wish list... been wanting a CAR Strat for awhile now... I don't use the S1 switching very much and I just haven't bonded with the H in the HSS... Yeah, I could swap in a new loaded pickguard but, hey, I can sell the the Am Deluxe for at least what I paid for it.. Just feelin' like its time for a change.. Worst case, I can use the $ to pay off the balance on the DRRI I just bought and still have enough left over for another Strat... GAS has no limits...


I wholeheartedly agree with your reasoning.

A note on the Bigsby: I know some players love the 'vintage' look of them yet the fact remains that they are quite limited and inefficient in comparison to a properly set Strat tremolo's capabilities.

As always, this is merely IMO where YMMV.

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Post subject: Re: Got Strats -- Do I Really Need a Tele?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:55 am
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i intend on fitting a bigsby to my JA90, but as you mentioned, im well aware that for me its 90% for the look, they look stunning and its going to suit the JA90 well. it probably wont get used much, but at least it will look beast.

in reality, a guitar that doesnt get played, however nice it is, is just the same as having a pile of wood and wire stacked in the corner of the room. chop it in for something you get more use from.

i remember growing up thinking "i need 1 strat, 1 tele, 1 les paul, 1 acoustic, and ill be sorted". i've got 1 strat, 3 teles, a 6 string and 12 string acoustic, and i tried a les paul but hated it. no point keeping it for the sake of it.


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Post subject: Re: Got Strats -- Do I Really Need a Tele?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:17 am
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oldguy101 wrote:
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Why even bother with two thirds of a non-contoured, non-tremolo Strat? (Loosely speaking, of course.)

Martian, that puts it in perspective pretty well. To me, the Tele is pretty basic -- nice but basic.

This is all absolutely true. Though of course for some of us that's much of the point of a Tele: it's for when your mood is more Springsteen than Lofgren (specially if you happen to have a natural finish blackguard Tele...). Sometimes a fella just feels like a chunky fat handful of baseball bat maple in his left fist. 8)

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A note on the Bigsby: I know some players love the 'vintage' look of them yet the fact remains that they are quite limited and inefficient in comparison to a properly set Strat tremolo's capabilities.

Seems like heresy to say it, but I totally agree. Bigsbys look so cool - and I've never met one in real life that functioned better than a truck on ice with bald tires. I have such respect for Brian Setzer: I simply have no idea how he does what he does with his Gretsches and stays even approximately in tune. Amazing.

For us mortals, if you want a vibrato; well that's why Leo gave us the Stratocaster.

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Post subject: Re: Got Strats -- Do I Really Need a Tele?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:31 am
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:) I traded my American Tele a few years ago and it was a mistake! I had a Strat at the time and I thought I would not need the Tele.Besides my bandmates at that time liked the Tele on less than a third of our set list. I made two mistakes 1)Selling the Tele.2)Listing to bandmates.Ha ha!!!
Have a AM Strat Deluxe,ES335,58 Les Paul RI ,the Tele would be a nice addition. As some tunes just need that Tele spank.

Tele is great addition no matter how much you play it.The American Standards are a real bargin for tone and overall quality not to mention the most rugged guitar on the face of the earth.I hate to travel with my Gibsons but had no fears travelling with my Tele.

I think I just convinced myself to start the budgeting process to buy another one!!

Good luck on your decison! You will have to Tele us all about your decison!!!


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Post subject: Re: Got Strats -- Do I Really Need a Tele?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:59 am
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I know it's a bit of a cliche, but I wouldn't mind having a Telecaster around to keep in open G...perhaps take off the low E string... 8)

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Post subject: Re: Got Strats -- Do I Really Need a Tele?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:31 am
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Don't get rid of your tele!!!!!!!!!! get rid of some of your strats if you feel the need to unburden yourself.

For me the tele is a better instrument than the strat. I think it's just a better feel. The only things the strat has over the tele is an extra pickup that you don't need anyway and the tremolo bar and the contoured body.

Tele is king always.

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Post subject: Re: Got Strats -- Do I Really Need a Tele?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:37 am
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I have a Strat, a Tele, and a home-brew Esquire. I love and play them all. Each one sounds totally different from the other. :D

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Post subject: Re: Got Strats -- Do I Really Need a Tele?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:43 am
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Martian wrote:
Why even bother with two thirds of a non-contoured, non-tremolo Strat? (Loosely speaking, of course.)

As always, this is merely IMO where YMMV.
Ouch! This really cuts me deeply.

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Now I am wondering why I even have any of these worthless guitars... maybe my wife was right... I should just sell them all...

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... but then I'd just have these (and about 45 other guitars) and then where would I be?

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Post subject: Re: Got Strats -- Do I Really Need a Tele?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:24 am
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in a girly world of curvaceous strats, with no manly testosterone leaking teles to hand !!!!!


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Post subject: Re: Got Strats -- Do I Really Need a Tele?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:25 am
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if you don't play the Tele then give it to someone who will give it the proper affection.

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Post subject: Re: Got Strats -- Do I Really Need a Tele?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:33 pm
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moochy13 wrote:
in a girly world of curvaceous strats, with no manly testosterone leaking teles to hand !!!!!
Thank you, moochy, for helping me find my way. It takes a real man to play a guitar all night that keeps digging into his ribs - thanks for reminding me! Of course, I have this one to take away some of the pain... yes, Strat contour on the back and a sculpted top.

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And this one to remind me of the old days... plain old '94 American Standard... feel the pain!

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Post subject: Re: Got Strats -- Do I Really Need a Tele?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:19 pm
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The Tele definitely has its place and it is far more that just two thirds of a Strat. It is a different animal. The Tele has a unique sound and it is more touch sensitive than a Strat. That sensitivity means it's easier to sound bad on a Tele if you don't have good hands. If you do know how to touch the Tele it will reward you with beautiful gorgeous tone by the bucketful. The Strat is a more forgiving and more versatile instrument and therefore better suited to the masses. The Tele is an aquired taste and usually if you fall in love with it you are in love for life.

I can't imagine NOT having a Tele in the arsenal. I've culled Gibsons and PRSs from the herd and kept a Tele. To the OP, I would definitely lose a Strat or two before losing the Tele.

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Post subject: Re: Got Strats -- Do I Really Need a Tele?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:24 pm
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Right now my budget allows me to have 2 electrics (both Strats) and 1 acoustic-electric. If I could afford multiple electric guitars, I'd have a Tele in there somewhere. I had a '76 Tele Custom as my first actual Fender, and years later had a MIM tele for a while. IMO a hard tail Fender is great to have around, especially if you are trying to lay down some oblique bends on a track or two. What better hard tail Fender than a Tele? I've always loved Thinlines any time I've picked one up, and their are some cool sig models out now as well.


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Post subject: Re: Got Strats -- Do I Really Need a Tele?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:02 pm
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BMW-KTM wrote:
The Tele definitely has its place and it is far more that just two thirds of a Strat. It is a different animal. The Tele has a unique sound and it is more touch sensitive than a Strat. That sensitivity means it's easier to sound bad on a Tele if you don't have good hands. If you do know how to touch the Tele it will reward you with beautiful gorgeous tone by the bucketful. The Strat is a more forgiving and more versatile instrument and therefore better suited to the masses. The Tele is an aquired taste and usually if you fall in love with it you are in love for life.

I can't imagine NOT having a Tele in the arsenal. I've culled Gibsons and PRSs from the herd and kept a Tele. To the OP, I would definitely lose a Strat or two before losing the Tele.


Well, funny you suggest losing a Strat first. Now I don't know which way to go --
    a) Sell the Am Deluxe, keep the Tele at least 'til I give it another chance
    b) Sell the Tele, keep the Am Deluxe but put together and install a loaded pickguard with p/u's more to my liking.
    c) Sell 'em both and go shopping...

Either way, at least one's gotta go to pay off the balance on the DRRI...


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Post subject: Re: Got Strats -- Do I Really Need a Tele?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:16 pm
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BMW-KTM wrote:
The Tele definitely has its place and it is far more that just two thirds of a Strat. It is a different animal. The Tele has a unique sound and it is more touch sensitive than a Strat. That sensitivity means it's easier to sound bad on a Tele if you don't have good hands. If you do know how to touch the Tele it will reward you with beautiful gorgeous tone by the bucketful. The Strat is a more forgiving and more versatile instrument and therefore better suited to the masses. The Tele is an aquired taste and usually if you fall in love with it you are in love for life.

I can't imagine NOT having a Tele in the arsenal. I've culled Gibsons and PRSs from the herd and kept a Tele. To the OP, I would definitely lose a Strat or two before losing the Tele.


I agree 100%

I own 5 strats and 2 teles. They are completely different beasts, and to pick which one I like more would be a real Sophie's choice. The tele is rawer and less refined, both physically and tonally. Teles have more highs and lows in my experience - a brasher tone. A strat has more mid range generally and also seems more forgiving and smoother. I think people are discounting the tonal versatility of a tele. The tone and volume knobs goes quite a long way on the 3 positions. For blues, ska, punk/hardcore, alt and reggae, both guitars perform incredibly.

I will say that ergonomically, a strat is the perfect guitar. In my mind, there is no way to improve on the comfort of Leo's design 8)

Some random thoughts tangentially related to the thread as an aside (hijack, sorry mate),

The tele comes out of a more frugal post war mentality in america. When Leo designed it people (including him I imagine) were more used to austerity and rationing. The strat came at the beginning of the space age when anything was possible in America, and affluence was on the rise. I think these facts reflect in the utilitarian, spartan nature of the tele, and the curvaceous, eternally modern nature of the strat.

I will say Im confused that leo design the strat with only 3 way switching. He already made a guitar with 3 way switching that utilizing dual pickups. You'd think they'ed use the same switching on a strat to make 5 way switching from the get to.

Sorry for that, back to your thread,

It's your call. They're your guitars you bought with your own money. If it were me, I couldnt imagine being without a tele in my arsenal. Considering that your playing style relies on a trem however, I can understand your hesitance to keep the tele.


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