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Post subject: Show us your Strats with Tele necks...
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:32 am
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Post subject: Re: Show us your Strats with Tele necks...
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:02 am
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Post subject: Re: Show us your Strats with Tele necks...
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:23 pm
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Post subject: Re: Show us your Strats with Tele necks...
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:32 pm
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Post subject: Re: Show us your Strats with Tele necks...
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:54 am
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Post subject: Re: Show us your Strats with Tele necks...
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:05 am
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Here's the only one I own - a MIM 60th Anniversary Strat in Blizzard Pearl. I loved the guitar when I bought it, but had trouble with the neck right off. My partner pitched in and after about an hour of tweaking, he said sell that piece of crap! Well, I had a '94 MIM Tele neck lying about, so I stuck that on the Strat and it was perfect, so I left it on.

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You might notice a little modification to the pickguard and pickups as well, that's a loaded pickguard I bought from GFS. I like humbuckers on my Strats these days, at least one, but in this case, two. It rocks.

I put that troublesome Strat neck on a Tele that had been lying around a while and it now looks like this. For some reason, that Strat neck worked a lot better on the Tele.

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Post subject: Re: Show us your Strats with Tele necks...
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:56 pm
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Here's the only one I own - a MIM 60th Anniversary Strat in Blizzard Pearl. I loved the guitar when I bought it, but had trouble with the neck right off. My partner pitched in and after about an hour of tweaking, he said sell that piece of crap! Well, I had a '94 MIM Tele neck lying about, so I stuck that on the Strat and it was perfect, so I left it on.

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You might notice a little modification to the pickguard and pickups as well, that's a loaded pickguard I bought from GFS. I like humbuckers on my Strats these days, at least one, but in this case, two. It rocks.

I put that troublesome Strat neck on a Tele that had been lying around a while and it now looks like this. For some reason, that Strat neck worked a lot better on the Tele.

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Looks fine!

Strats and Teles have different shaped neck pockets and heels. Strats have a rounded pocket/heel and Teles have a square pocket/heel. Did you have to route much to get a good fit?

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Post subject: Re: Show us your Strats with Tele necks...
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:46 am
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I'm diggin' the looks of that Blizzard Pearl guitar - how do those GFS pups sound compared to say, wide range 'buckers?

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Post subject: Re: Show us your Strats with Tele necks...
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:23 am
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Miami Mike wrote:
Looks fine!

Strats and Teles have different shaped neck pockets and heels. Strats have a rounded pocket/heel and Teles have a square pocket/heel. Did you have to route much to get a good fit?
No routing required at all. The Strat neck overhangs the pickguard, so it pops right onto a Tele with no effort at all.

The Tele neck, with it's squarer shape does require a little work, but only on the Strat pickguard itself, not on the guitar, so either way requires minimal effort and NO power tools!

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I'm diggin' the looks of that Blizzard Pearl guitar - how do those GFS pups sound compared to say, wide range 'buckers?
The main difference, I would say, is that they lack some of the "bite" you get with wide range or active humbuckers. They sound pretty "Fenderish" to me - very mellow at the neck and some good ballsy twang on the bridge. All in all, of course, a way different sound than Fender single coils.

And I love the look of white pearloid on almost any color guitar!

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Post subject: Re: Show us your Strats with Tele necks...
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:00 am
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Thanks Dennis!

If it sounds as good as it looks, you've got a player there.

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Post subject: Re: Show us your Strats with Tele necks...
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:33 am
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Obviously not my Strat with a Tele neck, but here's Jimi at the '69 Newport Pop Festival:
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It was a rush emergency transplant --you can see the crude reshaping he or his equipment manager or someone did to the normally square/flat Tele neck heel to get it to fit the original Strat neck pocket. The arc of the heel is uneven and there's a pretty big gap all the way across the rear -- they took off too much wood in places. (Modern-spec Strats have a squarer pocket that can accept Tele necks -- the pickguard covers the gaps around a Strat neck and a slight reshaping of the guard is all that's needed to fit a square/flat Tele neck heel.):

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For Newport, he used a Fender Dual Showman driving four Fender cabs each loaded with two 15" JBL's. (The cabs were rewired for 16 ohms each, so four cabs in parallel were a 4 ohm load, ideal for the Dual Showman):

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Not his typical rig at all. But he did experiment with Fender and Sunn a lot in '69.

Mike (in another life are you fendrguitplayr?), note these aren't all the same pics I added to that FDP thread. Variety is the spice of life. :wink:


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Post subject: Re: Show us your Strats with Tele necks...
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:22 am
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The original Strat neck pocket exactly matches the rounded heel of Strat necks, and doesn't accept the squarer Tele heel. All Strat pockets were like this until the '80s (or maybe late '70s) when the modern pocket was introduced. Reissues, some Artist Signature models, and older MIM Classics use the original shape. To fit a square Tele neck heel into the original Strat pocket you either have to round off the Tele heel or square up the Strat pocket and pickguard. (If there's a little bit of slop in the body screwholes, it may be sometimes be possible to put a square Tele hell in a round Strat pocket -- the neck won't be back all the way in the pocket so there'll be a gap along the center rear of the pocket, and the saddles will have to be adjusted very far forward to compensate for the neck being offset forward.)

Original Strat pocket shape:
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The modern pocket is a little quicker to produce since the CNC router can zip across in a straight line and the oversize corners make neck fit much less critical. It's sort of "W" shaped, and a square Tele heel fits fine. It has gaps with a Strat neck unlike the original pocket, but those are covered by the pickguard. American Standards & American Deluxes, Mexican Standards & Mexican Deluxes, newer Mexican Classics, and some Artist Signatures have the modern pocket. Tele neck heels actually fit the modern Strat pocket better than Strat neck heels do. (It doesn't make any tonal difference :roll: -- there's rarely an exact fit with any heel/pocket combination and there can be lots of good solid contact even with a few gaps in some places.)

Modern Strat pocket shape:
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The fretboard extension on 22 fret Tele necks cover up any sloppiness when you trim a Strat guard to accept a Tele neck. And if you switch back to a Strat neck, a 22 fret neck will cover up the pickguard mod. So 22 fret necks are a little more flexible/accommodating if you get a hankering to tinker with a Strat's genetic code.

22 fret Strat necks work better on Tele bodies too -- they cover up the gaps that aren't covered by the squared Tele pickguard.


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Post subject: Re: Show us your Strats with Tele necks...
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:53 am
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Just to be excruciatingly thorough and cover the opposite swap, look really close at this pic and you can see the gap on the rear edge and corner of the treble side when putting a 21 fret Strat neck on a Tele body. The other gap on the bass side is obscured by the fretboard due to the camera angle -- the gaps are small enough that from a lot of angles you can't see them.

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You can see that the gaps in the corners really aren't very bad. They're fairly thin "whiskers" so they aren't too noticeable up close, and from a distance they just look like shadows. A good portion of the center-rear of the Strat neck heel butts up against the rear wall of the flat Tele pocket so there's good contact. Actually the contact is as good as the contact a Strat neck has in the modern squarer Strat neck pocket.


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Post subject: Re: Show us your Strats with Tele necks...
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:18 am
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Great photos and details, strayedstrater!

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Post subject: Re: Show us your Strats with Tele necks...
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:48 am
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Funny. I've been thinking of doing the opposite...Strat neck on a Tele body.

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