Query about non-floating bridge

shimmilou · **Posted:** Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:45 am

nikininja wrote:

...It all comes down to whether you're capable of setting the thing up properly.

BS!

Using a tuner would prove it, and is far more precise than any ear. Play-ably in tune is one thing, the strings staying in tune with each other is another,....staying precisely in tune is entirely different, and it's what I'm saying. :wink:

I have a C-note to put my money where my mouth is, and every one I've tried has proven what I've said. I stand un-impeached.

BTW, I've prepared a video about trem spring reverb, will post tonight. Listen and weep. :lol:

Toppscore · **Joined:** Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:16 am **Posts:** 2337

Martian wrote:

Toppscore wrote:

...Like I said. I read...somewhere.

"Infallible Web Dogma" strikes again!

Right. Personally, I'm simply sharing the news. Not doing the deed.
But, gotta say to those who claim:
Never, Don't, Always, You Cannot, You Should Not, You Could Not or It Won't Work . . . . . .

"NEVER SAY ALWAYS and ALWAYS NEVER SAY NEVER"
THERE IS way too much possibility than DOES exist within the domain of "What You DO NOT KNOW"

My personal history has been to:
Sustain or return a guitar or amp to correct original factory specs. Let original express itself.
IMHO, that's the way I choose for an original guitar or an original amp to be.

But, I do allow for the fun of modifying & experimenting be performed
upon custom amps and custom guitars designed to be modified and terrified

And, let others be, do and envision differently.
Just as simple as Leo Fender was allowed to do.
Let the tremolo blockers block.
Let the blackfacers blackface
Let bassman have reverb
Let some volume have master volume
Let JBL's be over powered
Let Link Ray "Rumble" a knife through his Jensen
Let Jimi reverse and reverse again
Let Tweeders recover with fresh Tweed

Have fun exploring.
I wonder what blocked floating tremolos sound like when springs overpower the strings?
I wonder what new tones can be created with pickups on the neck? Just dreaming.
I wonder what a blackfaced amp with master volume will sound like? Just wondering.

OK. Gotta go practice "Eruption" by Eddie Van Halen.

Bye. Toppscore

Furvel · **Joined:** Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:06 pm **Posts:** 56

I keep the bridges on my Strats floating just slightly above the body and have no problem keeping the guitars in tune. That may be due, in part, to other factors though... I don't use it to dive hard like Hendrix or EVH, I use it for a more subtle effect (think Riveria Paradise). And over the years I've notice that my RI Strats stay in tune much better than the Am Std's I have owned, which I think is largely due to the slotted tuners and string trees on the vintage series models. I believe a Strat with a floating trem can stay in tune very well... (maybe not absolutely perfect all the time, but what guitar is Yngwie-in-tune-perfect all the time?) I just think other factors besides a floating bridge come into play, such as quality of tuners, type of string trees and of course severity of trem use. I would also add brand of string and quality of string wrap when re-stringing in there as well.

Toppscore · **Joined:** Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:16 am **Posts:** 2337

Furvel wrote:

I keep the bridges on my Strats floating just slightly above the body and have no problem keeping the guitars in tune. That may be due, in part, to other factors though... I don't use it to dive hard like Hendrix or EVH, I use it for a more subtle effect (think Riveria Paradise). And over the years I've notice that my RI Strats stay in tune much better than the Am Std's I have owned, which I think is largely due to the slotted tuners and string trees on the vintage series models. I believe a Strat with a floating trem can stay in tune very well... (maybe not absolutely perfect all the time, but what guitar is Yngwie-in-tune-perfect all the time?) I just think other factors besides a floating bridge come into play, such as quality of tuners, type of string trees and of course severity of trem use. I would also add brand of string and quality of string wrap when re-stringing in there as well.

Regarding "staying in tune", what to you think of the Fender Plus Deluxe Stratocasters
and the Fender Ultra Stratocasters with the special Fender Deluxe Locking Bridge
or the Floyd Rose Bridge, the LSR roller nut, and Schaller locking tuners.

These are special designed 1990s high-end Fender guitars.
Did they do the job? or do they have tuning issues?

Toppscore

Furvel · **Joined:** Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:06 pm **Posts:** 56

Toppscore wrote:

Regarding "staying in tune", what to you think of the Fender Plus Ultra Stratocasters
and the Fender Ultra Stratocasters with the special Fender Deluxe Locking Bridge
or the Floyd Rose Bridge, the LSR roller nut, and Schaller locking tuners.

These are special designed 1990s high-end Fender guitars.
Did they do the job? or do they have tuning issues?

Toppscore

Locking trems are a different animal, have never had one or needed one for my style of music. Occasionally I have to prep a locking trem guitar at the pawn shop, and I can't say that I am a fan of them. The regular Strat plus with the roller nuts and locking tuners were cool, always wanted one back in the day.

Toppscore · **Joined:** Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:16 am **Posts:** 2337

Furvel wrote:

Toppscore wrote:

Regarding "staying in tune", what to you think of the Fender Plus Ultra Stratocasters and the Fender Ultra Stratocasters with the special Fender Deluxe Locking Bridge or the Floyd Rose Bridge, the LSR roller nut, and Schaller locking tuners. These are special designed 1990s high-end Fender guitars. Did they do the job? or do they have tuning issues? Toppscore

Locking trems are a different animal, have never had one or needed one for my style of music. Occasionally I have to prep a locking trem guitar at the pawn shop, and I can't say that I am a fan of them. The regular Strat plus with the roller nuts and locking tuners were cool, always wanted one back in the day.

You know, I have several guitars. I sold all of my older guitars to get a variety of
modern Strats & Teles. All are different. Some have LSRs, some have locking tuners,
some have Floyd Rose and non-standard tremolos. I've not had any long enough to
get them out of tune, break strings, or try to load & tune quickly, and to see which
strings (8s 9s 10s 11s) I'll like on each guitar.

But, to your point, I have heard complaints about the locking tuners and locking tremolos
and the Floyd Rose systems. But, I might have read/heard twenty complaints in two months.
Yet, there are millions of the parts on guitars. So, I'm going to be open-minded to see
what works and delivers the end results. One thing for sure, I'll not have all the guitars
be the same. Whether I enjoy Floyd Rose or not, butterfly string guides or not, LSR's or not,
locking tuners or not, locking tremolos or not . . . . . .
bottom line is I'll have the variety, letting time dictate which guitars get played more.

I wonder if Bigsby tremolo systems (I have one) which are anchored to the tail-end
of the guitar near the strap button, have advantages over standard Strat tremolos
or Floyd Rose tremolos with regards to strings staying in tune?

Toppscore

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