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Post subject: My Fender 60 Reverse Headstock [Review and PICS] good deal?
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:09 am
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Hi folks, i recently bought this little jewel.

I found it in a forum and, after some talk, I was able to got it for 750 $.

Dont liked the fact that it didnt came with the proper hex keys, but after all it has a very stratish sound though, the pickups are pretty cool, the neck pickup is so powerful and sounds very good with some overdrive and even hard distortion.

What really surprised me were the tuners. It stays in tune for days, but of course with some abuse of the whammy bar it detunes quickly (hendrix style divebombs :roll: )

Well, good deal thought, regardless the good quality of the guitar, it other awesome feature is the aesthetic. Reversed headstock, maple tinted neck which i personally love, olympic white, which also is a plus for me, never liked the black strats, althought this particulary looks awesome too in black due to the maple tinted neck!

The big headstock is other feature. I hate the thins headstocks, seems too lifeless to me.

Other feature are the reverse staggered pole pickups. And reverse bridge pickup too!



Here are some pics, what do you think? :mrgreen:



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Post subject: Re: Here it is my Fender 60's Reverse Headstock
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:22 am
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looks like a keeper to me

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Post subject: Re: My Fender 60 Reverse Headstock [Review and PICS] good de
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 1:02 pm
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Yeah, it is a piece of collection!

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Post subject: Re: My Fender 60 Reverse Headstock [Review and PICS] good de
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 1:57 pm
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If it is a mexican like you were looking for / asking the price, then this is waaaayyyy too expensive!

If you love it and it's worth triple price to you, then it might be a good deal at least for you personally.

I'd never pay this price for an ENTIRE MEXICAN Fender!

Is it Mexican??
If so, I think they completely ripped you off. Sorry!

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Post subject: Re: My Fender 60 Reverse Headstock [Review and PICS] good de
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 2:49 pm
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Of course it is mexican, since it is the limited edition 60 reverse special.

This is not a standard mim, its a unique limited model that is kinda hard to find, specially the olympic white model. New was 700 bucks in 2007 but they are actually rewarded...

One year ago i had seen one for 700 bucks in ebay, and also i have read that they were selling in the 600-700 $ range, but nowadays i dont know what is their price, but this was the only i was able to found!

So yeah, i could afford 50 bucks or even 100 but they are so hard to find though...


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Post subject: Re: My Fender 60 Reverse Headstock [Review and PICS] good de
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 7:15 pm
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I had two of these black and white when I bought them new I paid $399 with free shipping. But I love the neck on them and these are nice guitars. I think you over paid a little but you still got a nice guitar the only thing I changed were the pickups


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Post subject: Re: My Fender 60 Reverse Headstock [Review and PICS] good de
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 10:57 am
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What does the bridge pickup sound like? How much does it change the sound compared to the standard slanted bridge? Very cool looking...looks like you can channel Jimi now! :lol:


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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 11:25 am
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goodinbed wrote:
I had two of these black and white when I bought them new I paid $399 with free shipping. But I love the neck on them and these are nice guitars. I think you over paid a little but you still got a nice guitar the only thing I changed were the pickups


Are the reverse necks the same as a left-handed neck on a right-handed guitar body?

What are the differences between a reverse neck and a left-handed neck?
Besides the Fender decal being changed?

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Post subject: Re: My Fender 60 Reverse Headstock [Review and PICS] good de
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 1:45 pm
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Toppscore wrote:

Are the reverse necks the same as a left-handed neck on a right-handed guitar body?

What are the differences between a reverse neck and a left-handed neck?


No difference, except for the nut (gotta be slotted vice versa!) and the look and the disturbing fingering around to find those darn tuners, which are on the wrong side of the headstock, ha ha ha.

Honestly, there's no difference at all, other than being different from the standard.
A matter of taste. If you like the look and get used to the different tuner position, then it's a neck just as any other neck as well.

One exception: there's signature necks with asymmetric neck profiles. Those will be very weird in reverse!

Most of the time it's just a standard neck with a reverse routed/sawn headstock.

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Post subject: Re: My Fender 60 Reverse Headstock [Review and PICS] good de
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 2:54 pm
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Smokin' Frets wrote:
Toppscore wrote:
Are the reverse necks the same as a left-handed neck on a right-handed guitar body?
What are the differences between a reverse neck and a left-handed neck?

No difference, except for the nut (gotta be slotted vice versa!) and the look and the disturbing fingering around to find those darn tuners, which are on the wrong side of the headstock, ha ha ha.
Honestly, there's no difference at all, other than being different from the standard.
A matter of taste. If you like the look and get used to the different tuner position, then it's a neck just as any other neck as well.
One exception: there's signature necks with asymmetric neck profiles. Those will be very weird in reverse!
Most of the time it's just a standard neck with a reverse routed/sawn headstock.

Good to know. I may ask Warmoth if I can put a Left Neck on a Right Body.
Really make a custom Strat. Really cool.
Also, I wonder if there are Tuners that turn the opposite way,
so whenever in an upside-down reverse polarity back-ward left-handed situation,
at least the tuners will feel normal :lol:

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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 3:11 pm
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"Are the reverse necks the same as a left-handed neck on a right-handed guitar body?"

A lefty neck mounted upside-down on a righty body has its side-dots facing down toward the floor. A reverse neck has the side-dots facing up so you can see them while you play. (To be more precise, it's not a "reverse neck", it's a "reverse head" on a normal neck.)

Ideally, you shouldn't need any sort of fret marker inlays at all -- you should be able to play with your eyes closed in a dark room. Blind people can play guitar. But most of us glance down at least once in a while to see where we are. I've got a guitar with low-contrast side-dots (they're hard to see) and I get lost more easily on it than on my other guitars, even though it has large bright fretboard dots. I don't have a clear view of the fretboard when I glance down -- all I see is the side of the neck. So I'd much prefer a reverse headstock over a lefty neck (if I wanted that look/feel).


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Post subject: Re: My Fender 60 Reverse Headstock [Review and PICS] good de
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 3:17 pm
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strayedstrater wrote:
"Are the reverse necks the same as a left-handed neck on a right-handed guitar body?" A lefty neck mounted upside-down on a righty body has its side-dots facing down toward the floor. A reverse neck has the side-dots facing up so you can see them while you play. (To be more precise, it's not a "reverse neck", it's a "reverse head" on a normal neck.) Ideally, you shouldn't need any sort of fret marker inlays at all -- you should be able to play with your eyes closed in a dark room. Blind people can play guitar. But most of us glance down at least once in a while to see where we are. I've got a guitar with low-contrast side-dots (they're hard to see) and I get lost more easily on it than on my other guitars, even though it has large bright fretboard dots. I don't have a clear view of the fretboard when I glance down -- all I see is the side of the neck. So I'd much prefer a reverse headstock over a lefty neck (if I wanted that look/feel).


Thanks, that is good to know about the inlays.
Now we have options:
Right Neck with Right Inlays
Left Neck with Left Inlays
Left Neck with Right Inlays
Right Neck with Left Inlays

Still wondering if the Left Neck holes will lineup with the Right Body holes.
Should the Neck Plate be reversed, also?
And, gotta find tuners that turn the opposite way, when upside down.
But, thinking about it, the tuners should be able to turn continuously
in either direction, anyway. Gosh. My mind is buzzing. Toppscore 8)

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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 3:55 pm
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The mounting holes should line up on Fender and Fender-licensed bodies and necks. Righty on righty, lefty on righty, reverse on righty. The mounting holes are symmetrical around the center of the pocket. (The Fender Deluxe contoured neck joint is of course an exception to that rule.)

There's always some variation/tolerance. On rare occasions the holes might not line up. You run that small risk with any combination, even righty on righty. But it's very easy to plug the holes and drill new ones if you face that uncommon situation.

Yes, there are lefty tuners, and it's best to use them on reverse/lefty headstocks. Tuners do work just as well turning in either direction -- righty tuners would function correctly on a reverse head -- but the shaft offset is reversed (so the tuner knobs will be closer to the tip of the head) so they look a little odd, plus you'd have to turn the knobs "backwards" while tuning which is even more confusing than just having them on the wrong side of the head.

Most tuner manufacturers offer lefty 6-in-line. They shouldn't be hard to find.


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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 4:32 pm
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strayedstrater wrote:
The mounting holes should line up on Fender and Fender-licensed bodies and necks. Righty on righty, lefty on righty, reverse on righty. The mounting holes are symmetrical around the center of the pocket. (The Fender Deluxe contoured neck joint is of course an exception to that rule.)

There's always some variation/tolerance. On rare occasions the holes might not line up. You run that small risk with any combination, even righty on righty. But it's very easy to plug the holes and drill new ones if you face that uncommon situation.

Yes, there are lefty tuners, and it's best to use them on reverse/lefty headstocks. Tuners do work just as well turning in either direction -- righty tuners would function correctly on a reverse head -- but the shaft offset is reversed (so the tuner knobs will be closer to the tip of the head) so they look a little odd, plus you'd have to turn the knobs "backwards" while tuning which is even more confusing than just having them on the wrong side of the head.

Most tuner manufacturers offer lefty 6-in-line. They shouldn't be hard to find.



Thanks Strayed. Very good stuff.
Couple of questions. I bet that if the holes are four in a square, all should fit.
I have seen some different non-square neck-plates with a different line up of bolts.
No biggie, as that is obvious. But, are some body neck cavities grooved so they
are not flat? Maybe sloping thinner to thicker requiring a custom matching neck?
I will hunt for an example if I can remember where to look.

Some guitarist took guitars upside down like Hendrix with reversed strings for Left handers
Others took Right guitars to play Left handed but reversed the strings and re-strung the
strings to be normal for Lefty's on a Right handed guitar.
Any differences in the tuners?

Also, did not quite understand that if I took a Left-handed neck with Left-handed tuners,
flip the neck onto a Right-handed body, why can or cannot I turn the tuners either
direction, if they can be continuously turned either direction?
Not all tuners are "locking tuners".
What do your think?
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Post subject: Re: My Fender 60 Reverse Headstock [Review and PICS] good de
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 7:36 pm
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"But, are some body neck cavities grooved so they
are not flat? Maybe sloping thinner to thicker requiring a custom matching neck?"

No Fender neck pockets are like that. (Other than random variation/tolerance possibly requiring a shim to mate a particular neck to a particular pocket.)

"Some guitarist took guitars upside down like Hendrix with reversed strings for Left handers
Others took Right guitars to play Left handed but reversed the strings and re-strung the
strings to be normal for Lefty's on a Right handed guitar.
Any differences in the tuners?"

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're asking.

"Also, did not quite understand that if I took a Left-handed neck with Left-handed tuners,
flip the neck onto a Right-handed body, why can or cannot I turn the tuners either
direction, if they can be continuously turned either direction?"

Like I said, tuners function the same either direction. But the direction you turn the knobs to tighten the strings is the opposite on left-hand tuners. Using lefty tuners on a regular righty neck would feel odd to most people, as would using righty tuners on a lefty/reverse neck.


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