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Post subject: Re: Why the pickups magnets are set differently¿
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:20 am
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Toppscore wrote:
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Interesting how the chart went from flat to 7" to 16" when 16" is closer to flat.


Well, FLAT is "no radius", hence smaller than 7,5" radius (in regardence to the radius)! :wink:
Maybe they mean it that way??
It would've been more logic to place flat AFTER the biggest listed radius, that's right.

I'd rather look at FLAT as "infinitly big radius" rather than "Zero Radius" (=No Radius)

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Post subject: Re: Why the pickups magnets are set differently¿
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:35 am
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Xhefri wrote:
Martian, That was the best, well written explanation I have ever heard about the staggered poles pieces. I thought it might have had something to do with the radius, but as you pointed out, it is not completely symmetrical with the radius.

I thank you.
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Why do you think so many pickup manufacturers when to the flat poles?

Because it's cheaper and also with the lighter gauge of strings, it actually allows the magnetic window to pick up more frequencies to where the ear would hear them evenly.
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And do you think that little height difference makes much of a difference in the actual volume of each string? (Just wondering how critical it is?)


I believe it does when a heavier or diverse gauged string sets are used.
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I always smile when I look at humbuckers, because they have the pole adjustment screws which are almost always the same height all the way across. When I was a kid I remember adjusting the ones on my DX Ephiphone Wilshire. But I am sure those adjustment screws are there for the same reason staggered poles are on single coils.

Yes, those screws are in contact with a blade magnet. Hence, by adjusting the individual screw, the individual string can be 'dialed' in or out, volume wise.

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Post subject: Re: Why the pickups magnets are set differently¿
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:30 pm
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My Favorite Martian!
Very interesting, well put together and informative explanation. Thank you.


So, please tell me, if the fretboard is removed from the neck,
is the radius at the nut the same as the radius at the 12th fret and at the 21st fret?

Is the fretboard installed flat on the neck wood and then shaved to a desired radius, later?

If the fretboard radius is 7", what is the radius of the nut and the bridge & bridge saddles?

Are the frets shaved or curved towards the same radius as the fretboard?

I have hard rail pickups and soon Lace Sensor pickups. How are these pickups
adjusted to the strings? or are the string's adjusted by the bridge & bridge saddles?

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Post subject: Re: Why the pickups magnets are set differently¿
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:28 pm
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Toppscore wrote:
My Favorite Martian!
Very interesting, well put together and informative explanation. Thank you.


So, please tell me, if the fretboard is removed from the neck,
is the radius at the nut the same as the radius at the 12th fret and at the 21st fret?

Is the fretboard installed flat on the neck wood and then shaved to a desired radius, later?

If the fretboard radius is 7", what is the radius of the nut and the bridge & bridge saddles?

Are the frets shaved or curved towards the same radius as the fretboard?

I have hard rail pickups and soon Lace Sensor pickups. How are these pickups
adjusted to the strings? or are the string's adjusted by the bridge & bridge saddles?


In a group answer to your generalized radius questions, many are, many are not. It depends on the manufacturer and oftentimes, specific models within a given manufacturer.

As to your pickup questions, with any electric guitar, the strings should first be adjusted up or down as appropriate to the fingerboard and then the pickups themselves are adjusted up or down as appropriate to the strings.

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Post subject: Re: Why the pickups magnets are set differently¿
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:45 pm
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Martian wrote:
Toppscore wrote:
My Favorite Martian!
Very interesting, well put together and informative explanation. Thank you.


So, please tell me, if the fretboard is removed from the neck,
is the radius at the nut the same as the radius at the 12th fret and at the 21st fret?

Is the fretboard installed flat on the neck wood and then shaved to a desired radius, later?

If the fretboard radius is 7", what is the radius of the nut and the bridge & bridge saddles?

Are the frets shaved or curved towards the same radius as the fretboard?

I have hard rail pickups and soon Lace Sensor pickups. How are these pickups
adjusted to the strings? or are the string's adjusted by the bridge & bridge saddles?


In a group answer to your generalized radius questions, many are, many are not. It depends on the manufacturer and oftentimes, specific models within a given manufacturer.

As to your pickup questions, with any electric guitar, the strings should first be adjusted up or down as appropriate to the fingerboard and then the pickups themselves are adjusted up or down as appropriate to the strings.


Yes. Thank you. Between my guitars there must be 9-11 hard rail types.
I just purchase a 1990 Fender Ultra with four (4) Lace Sensor pickups (no poles).
We shall see what they sound like. Take care. Toppscore 8)

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Post subject: Re: Why the pickups magnets are set differently¿
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 3:53 pm
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Thinking about it, maybe it will be good to incline the hard-rail & Lace Sensor pickups
from high to low from the wound strings (high) to the thin strings (low).

Does this make sense, if the wound strings have a harder time
getting picked-up by the pickups?
Toppscore 8)

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Post subject: Re: Why the pickups magnets are set differently¿
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 4:02 pm
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Toppscore wrote:
Thinking about it, maybe it will be good incline the hard-rail & Lace Sensor pickups
from high to low from the wound strings (high) to the thin strings (low).

Does this make sense, if the wound strings have a harder time
getting picked-up by the pickups?
Toppscore 8)

I think you mean Hot Rails not "hard-rails."

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Post subject: Re: Why the pickups magnets are set differently¿
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 5:30 pm
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Xhefri wrote:
Toppscore wrote:
Thinking about it, maybe it will be good incline the hard-rail & Lace Sensor pickups
from high to low from the wound strings (high) to the thin strings (low).

Does this make sense, if the wound strings have a harder time
getting picked-up by the pickups?
Toppscore 8)

I think you mean Hot Rails not "hard-rails."

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I was wondering what "hard-rails" was, myself.

Toppscore, let your ear be the judge because again, the gauge of string set, your action, etc. are all factors.

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Post subject: Re: Why the pickups magnets are set differently¿
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 9:23 pm
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Xhefri wrote:
Toppscore wrote:
Thinking about it, maybe it will be good incline the hard-rail & Lace Sensor pickups
from high to low from the wound strings (high) to the thin strings (low).

Does this make sense, if the wound strings have a harder time
getting picked-up by the pickups?
Toppscore 8)

I think you mean Hot Rails not "hard-rails."

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