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Post subject: Neck # doesn't match body# ?
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:56 am
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Hi guys.
I bought Fender Stratocaster customshop 56 relic about 2 weeks ago.
but there's some problem.
neck # doesn't match body#
Is there anybody who knows this kind of unmatched neck and body.

check several pics below.


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certificate says serial# : R0676
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neck plate says R0676 too
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now starts the problem
neck# : 611007
matched body#: 611011
and where's the custom shop logo?

I tried to remove the sticker on the neck but failed.
I guess what you see is the end side C of RELIC and o of Cunetto.
is that right?

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but the body says 611013
it doesn't match.
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Look at this.
there's 2 more holes. What do you guys guess this is?

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Post subject: Re: Neck # doesn't match body# ?
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:26 am
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I'm not too sure what's coing on with the numbers here, you may want to check with Mike in the CS about that. Perhaps some one had a little too much "party hearty" the night before assembly. I wonder if there is another dude out there with the body number you should have, scratching their head. As for the 2 extra holes in the neck pocket, those are from the jig used in the painting process.


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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:33 am
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Where's the Custome Shop stamp on the Head Stock.


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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:35 am
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Agree it's likely to be a minor oversight at construction, either way that is one fabulous looking strat.


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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:04 am
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surely im not the only one who can see the custom shop mark on the headstock ? looks more like an actual stamp into the wood than an ink stamp.


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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:08 am
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tbazzone wrote:
Where's the Custome Shop stamp on the Head Stock.


I can see what looks like a Custom Shop stamp that is relieved into the wood, as opposed to a decal or inked stamp (much like the stamp in the body under the pickguard). I don't have much experience with Custom Shop guitars but I haven't seen one like this before.

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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:16 am
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Get in touch with the Custom Shop at Fender and ask.

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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:28 am
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I wouldn't be stressing over it.

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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 11:25 am
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What you've got is a fine example of a "Cunetto" Relic, i.e. relics that were made by Vince Cunetto outside of the Fender Custom Shop.

The number stamped on the neck indicate the year number, the day it arrived in the shop and the series, if I remember well (e.g. 6 for 96, 110 for the 110th day, 22 for the model).

This is documented in the excellent Tom Wheeler's "Dream Factory" book.

And I happen to also have one, same year, same type of "stamps".

Don't worry and be happy !


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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:17 pm
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Ryan - this seems to match up with what I've read about the Cunetto era as well.

Back then Fender sent the guitar parts out to Vince Cunetto for finishing/relicing. They kind of went out as "kits" - i.e. the bodies, necks, and hardware were marked with these codes to indicate they were supposed to be for the same guitar. Vince Cunetto used to be a member over at The Gear Page (he has - or used to have - his own company called "Vinetto" that opened after he did the relics for Fender; not sure if he is still in business). He mentioned in a couple of posts that when he got done with the finishing/relicing, he would sometimes rematch the bodies, necks, and hardware because he thought the aging of the particular parts matched better than the original "kit" he was sent from Fender. This could be the case with your guitar that either Vince or the assembler at Fender thought that this body and this neck just matched even though the codes were different, so this is what got assembled.


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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:16 pm
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:59 pm
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I do see the Custom Shop mark on the back of the headstock!

John C wrote:
He mentioned in a couple of posts that when he got done with the finishing/relicing, he would sometimes rematch the bodies, necks, and hardware because he thought the aging of the particular parts matched better than the original "kit" he was sent from Fender. This could be the case with your guitar that either Vince or the assembler at Fender thought that this body and this neck just matched even though the codes were different, so this is what got assembled.


That seems most reasonable to me.

Of course, if the previous owner was a collector of Cunetto/Custom Shop relics, he could have swapped the necks on a couple of his guitars. Either way, what are you gonna do?

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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:31 pm
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Its consistant with everthing I can find from 96. What you got there is a very nice guitar :D


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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:25 pm
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No one mentioned it BUT DO NOT PEEL OFF THE STICKER ON THE NECK HIDDEN IN THE POCKET.
Just because you are not sure of the authenticity does not mean everything is not as it should be.

You have to post this in Mike Eldred's section and ask him.
But from what others have said you have gotten a special CS. Don't change anything on it.

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Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 5:48 am
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orvilleowner wrote:
I do see the Custom Shop mark on the back of the headstock!

John C wrote:
He mentioned in a couple of posts that when he got done with the finishing/relicing, he would sometimes rematch the bodies, necks, and hardware because he thought the aging of the particular parts matched better than the original "kit" he was sent from Fender. This could be the case with your guitar that either Vince or the assembler at Fender thought that this body and this neck just matched even though the codes were different, so this is what got assembled.


That seems most reasonable to me.

Of course, if the previous owner was a collector of Cunetto/Custom Shop relics, he could have swapped the necks on a couple of his guitars. Either way, what are you gonna do?

Could always double-check with the man himself:

www.vinetto.com

Cheers - C

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