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Post subject: Re: locking tuners -how to?
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:42 pm
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HWY1Strat wrote:
stratele52 wrote:
You put string in the hole , lock in place and cut the string , That it is



I'd like to add one more very important step......
(I have 12 guitars....ALL with Fender/Schaller locking tuners)

1: put string in hole
2: pull the string very tight until an audible note sounds...
3: Lock string in place with note still sounding.....
4: tune......within 3-4 turns it should be in tune...

This method work wonders for me.....hasn't ever failed!

Good Luck!..................

This is exactly what I do.....

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Post subject: Re: locking tuners -how to?
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 10:12 am
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I have a lot of sets of locking tuners, some quite different from others.

I like the brushed stainless Fender type without the "f" on the wheel, but I like the chrome ones with the "f' on the wheels second best.

I usually have a slight amount of slack so that the post winds up about three quarters of a turn but less than a whole turn. This just displaces the stress away from the pin and onto the post a little.

I like how fast string changes are and I like how the strings stay in tune better, even whan whammying.

I have to say, however, that I have some non locking tuners, Grovers, etc., that stay in tune really well; as in on my Epi LP Custom and Agile AL-3125, but I use the "over and under" method when starting the winding - pull the string thru the hole, leave an inch or so slack in your other hand and pass the end of the string over and under the string that stays on the guitar, pull it sharply up and kink it against the post so the two parts of the string are kinked in opposite directions and lock into each other at the hole; then, keeping the wires tight and the kinks interlocked, slowly tighten the machine until the string starts to wind around the post, moving down toward the surface of the headstock as it winds. Then you can let go of your clamping hand and just guide the wire as it wraps "downward" in coils around the post with "zero" winds of the string overlapping previous winds.

This results in a nice even, neat looking wind with the successive wind coils moving down the post and pressing against the winds above each other until the string passes down the neck to the bridge and is tuned up to pitch.

Winding the strings so that the coils move down the post, progressively, toward the surface of the headstock tightens the strings against the kinked part that you started with at the beginning when you pulled the string thru the whole and bent it back against itself. The pressure of the coils pressing against this locking kink increases tuning stability. Also notice that the shape of the tuning post is tapered to facilitate the string windings progressively pushing upward against the previous winds.

Sloppy looking, overlapping winds, leads to tuning instability, especially with guitars with tremolos because every time you depress the tremolo the strings slack up some and when you release the tremolo or pull up on it, any slack introduced into the sloppy winds gets pulled on hard and the string re-seats itself among the other sloppily wound strings.

When there are minimal winds the string just tightens back into its neatly lined up wind when the trem is worked up and down, back and forth.

It might not make sense at first, but the more you think about it and try this method, the more clear it will become and the better your string tuning stability will be, within reason.

I hope this helps someone out that has not been neatly winding their strings around the posts and hasn't learned about this simple technique to clean and tighten things up.

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Post subject: Re: locking tuners -how to?
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 2:19 pm
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Don't leave slack! Defeats the purpose of keeping the guitar in tune. Works great with tremelo use. Made a big difference with my American Special FSR Strat. Try it, you'll be surprised at the difference.


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