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Maple neck vs. Rosewood neck for strats?
Poll ended at Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:51 am
Maple neck 59%  59%  [ 58 ]
Rosewood neck 41%  41%  [ 40 ]
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Post subject: Re: Maple neck vs. Rosewood neck?
Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 3:25 pm
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Though A/B-ing two different guitars, even production models have extraneous variables, this software can tell and show the difference objectively:

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:40 pm
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I have never bought into the tone variations with Maple and Rosewood. I play Maple more than the others because I like the clean feeling the edges of the fretboard and the slickness of the finish. But I enjoy Rosewood as well and really like Ebony. 8)

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:52 pm
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CRGuitarMan wrote:
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I like Rosewood. But, they wear out sooner than Maple.
Excuse me?!

I'm not sure where you get the idea that rosewood "wears out" faster than maple, but considering that rosewood in much harder than maple, that idea seems unlikely at best. I know this is part of The Endless Debate, but since certain facts are known regarding the two species of wood, certain statements must be questioned.

I have never seen a worn-out rosewood fretboard, but I have seen plenty of maple fretboards with nice deep worn spots. I've been playing guitars with maple, rosewood and ebony fretboards for 48 years now - including guitars I have owned for almost that long and I don't have ANY worn-out fretboards.


Statistically yes, you have proved that rosewood is harder than maple. BUT it is true the rosewood gouges easier when used as a fretboard than maple, because is an open grained wood (meaning there is no finish on it). Maple, on the other hand, will have a urethane or lacquer finish on the fretboard, which is much harder than the wood itself. I have seen a rosewood boards with deep fingernail grooves in them. Sometimes maple will wear through the finish and get grey areas and then start to have grooves worn into the wood, but only after the finish has been rubbed away. That take some some time. I have dressed 100s for necks, and have filed the grooves out of rosewood many times. Just some food for thought. :D

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:04 pm
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Over the years I have owned a few Strats (Am Std-Rosewood, Am Deluxe- Maple, CV 50's- maple) and a few Teles (Am Std-maple, Am Deluxe- Maple, CV 50's- Maple, MIM Std- Rosewood). I will say that my preference for Strats is rosewood. Mainly because. my current and fave of all I have owned, a simple MIM Strat Std (go figure) is rosewood. However, on a Tele I prefer maple.


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Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:02 pm
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Maple definitely sounds brighter but there's moments when you simply love the warmer rosewood sound better. I have those moments, too. That's why I own and love both!

That's how I feel as well! I view it silly to try to make one appear superior to the other. This is as dumb as trying to say a Strat is better than a Les Paul. They are both great and, let's face it, they both have pros and cons. I play alot on maple but, when I pick up my Mustang, the warmer sounding rosewood is an old friend saying, "Back again huh, Pal?"


Stratocasters ARE better than Les Pauls!!! Darn it! :lol:

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Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:06 pm
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Smokin' Frets wrote:
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Because, my maple or rosewood axes may have bone or brass nuts,
hardtail-Bigsby-Fender Tremolo bridges, 8s 9s 10s or 11s strings, locking tuners or not,
different custom potentiometers, 10' 15' 20' monster or off-brand guitar cords,
some axes have humbuckers, humbuckers & single coils and SSS,
some axes have push/pull, some have in-phase/out-of-phase switches,
one has veritone switching, and different color guitar straps, etc etc etc.

So, there is absolutely no way I can tell within my eight guitars
which is different = rosewood or maple tones/sounds.

Guess the only way to test is to own two identical Strats
with different fretboards. What do you think? Toppscore

Absolutely right! In fact, and that's what I wrote in one of my first posts in this thread, you could ONLY OBJECTIVELY compare both woods, if you'd play the maple neck, record it, then route it down and attach a rosewood fingerboard. Nobody would do that just for a test.
So, since this is no option, the only way to compare them is to play to Strats with exactly the same features, except the fingerboard or swap necks. It will lead to a slightly different result in tone, every guitar has it's own "soul" but it would make it at least compareable up to a certain point. It's really hard to compare both, especially since even the knowledge about which wood is on your neck MIGHT(!) have an influence on your playing style (talk about mood etc...). All I can say from my point of view is: there's been measurements with high class electronic equipment and the say maple sounds brighter. I personally tested both even many years before, when I didn't know much about guitar theory and since I was looking for a warm tone ONLY during that time, I ALWAYS ended up with rosewood. Today, after more than 25 years of playing and after having played LOTS of different guitars, I personally can confirm that I NEVER had a maple neck guitar in my hand which sounded warmer than rosewood neck guitars TO ME(!). So I DARE to say: yes, maple definitely sounds brighter. DO NOT DARE to say that I might not have been tricked by my brain without knowing it :lol: but i'm very positive that I'm right, ha ha ha.


Whatever is TOO BRIGHT . . . . .
maple neck, pickup, pedal, amp, speaker, custom paint job, lights, guitar strap, etc.

TURN THE TREBLE DOWN OR THE BASS UP :lol:

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Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:09 pm
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veryhungrycaterpillar wrote:
Though A/B-ing two different guitars, even production models have extraneous variables, this software can tell and show the difference objectively: http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/fft.html


Very Hungry; Have you purchased and used this software?
And to what end did it help you?
Toppscore 8)

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Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:23 pm
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Xhefri wrote:
CRGuitarMan wrote:
Toppscore wrote:
I like Rosewood. But, they wear out sooner than Maple.
Excuse me?!

I'm not sure where you get the idea that rosewood "wears out" faster than maple, but considering that rosewood in much harder than maple, that idea seems unlikely at best. I know this is part of The Endless Debate, but since certain facts are known regarding the two species of wood, certain statements must be questioned.

I have never seen a worn-out rosewood fretboard, but I have seen plenty of maple fretboards with nice deep worn spots. I've been playing guitars with maple, rosewood and ebony fretboards for 48 years now - including guitars I have owned for almost that long and I don't have ANY worn-out fretboards.


Statistically yes, you have proved that rosewood is harder than maple. BUT it is true the rosewood gouges easier when used as a fretboard than maple, because is an open grained wood (meaning there is no finish on it). Maple, on the other hand, will have a urethane or lacquer finish on the fretboard, which is much harder than the wood itself. I have seen a rosewood boards with deep fingernail grooves in them. Sometimes maple will wear through the finish and get grey areas and then start to have grooves worn into the wood, but only after the finish has been rubbed away. That take some some time. I have dressed 100s for necks, and have filed the grooves out of rosewood many times. Just some food for thought. :D


This is exactly what I have totally meant. I have seen too many rosewood necks with
POT HOLES ALL over the FIRST TWELVE FRETS!
Share your info with the wood rating services. What about rubber trees, ember sap trees,
hard wood trees, evergreen trees, fossilized trees, and my favorite tree:
Tree Wood that's been "Naturally" zapped by lightening = Best wood & tone ever known.

Out of the cajillions of guitars I've personally touched, only once have I seen or felt
a pot hole on a maple neck. I know my sample size is large enough to qualify for Wiki :shock:
but, are not opinions like farts, I mean facts around here? :lol:


Mostly on 1950s & 1960s maple necks, I've notice a grayish discoloration for fretboard ware.
Anyway, I'm sure there are many neck fretboard war stories. There may be a few necks
I have not seen. But, I have an opinion. It is FACT for me :wink:

Toppscore 8)

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