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Post subject: Re: Showing off my *fake* Stratocaster
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:16 pm
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Buddy Pauly wrote:
jnastyNE wrote:
Congrats on supporting an illegal enterprise that counterfeits American products! Yeah, your friends will never know, unless you have a friend that has an actual Fender and knows his %$$ from a hole in the ground.
This is a first, in that most morons that don't know enough to do checking BEFORE buying a $100 'Fender" off craigslist usually cower in shame for being so easily taken, but you put it out there with pride. Enjoy your $100 piece of firewood.


Well alright, you can jump on me, that's your right. But I bought it third hand without the intention of getting a Fender at all, I was more interested in the Epiphone. Supporting the illegal market? Eh, something tells me this guitar is worth more than I paid. Before buying it I didn't even know what a Fender was, didn't really care what the brand was. The fact was it looked good, played well and had a nice sound. For 100 bucks I couldn't go wrong. And the friends never knowing was a joke, clearly I am not trying to pass this off as the real deal. Enjoy your anger management problems.

As for what others have said, I also am not a huge fan of the Fender logo job on it. And it does make me feel a little uneasy walking around with false advertising on it. Clearly Fender-minded people could spot the fakeness quite easily. I have no intentions of selling it, let alone trying to rip anyone off. I don't actually know if the person who sold it to me was trying to pass it off as real or not, he never actually called it a Fender (and it wasn't the ad I was responding to)

dfrain - I think it sounds pretty great actually. Has a better sound for me than the Les Paul I tried out. But really, 100 bucks is chump change. Maybe my next one will be a real one?

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Post subject: Re: Showing off my *fake* Stratocaster
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:23 pm
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paris wrote:
You're right, it's a fake, but if you're happy with it I say, "what the Hell!"

I agree I would get rid of the logo. You can get better logo from Sentinel Custom Graphics. The guy who I go through is named Art. He's a good guy and does a pretty good job.

http://sentinelcustomgraphics.com/default.aspx

I own two fake Fender's, I had built, myself and I love them. They are a mix of Fender and non-Fender parts. They look and play wondefully.

http://s1068.photobucket.com/albums/u45 ... C_0013.jpg

http://s1068.photobucket.com/albums/u45 ... T-bone.jpg

The Tele has one of Sentinel's water slide logos.

Good luck with the new guitar!


Fender aggressively defends their trademarks and logos. They are known for going after and sueing websites engaged in the manufacture and sale of unlicensed, illegal logos such as the one you are promoting. There is nothing on that site indicating that the decals they are selling are auhtorized by Fender or any other manufacturer. Your post and the website have been reported to Fender for their review and action. Sites such as this one have disappeared within weeks after Fender being notified of their existance. Promotion of such sites is a violation of the forum rules for which you could be banned.

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Post subject: Re: Showing off my *fake* Stratocaster
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:47 pm
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my first strat was actually a copy. I think the brand was Axetech or something. It served it's purpose for me at the time after putting better tuners on it, which was getting a strat-like tone on a shoestring budget.

If I remember correctly I traded up for a Cort strat copy at an even trade thanks to the Gotoh tuners I'd installed and then minutes later on my way home I stopped into a different pawn shop and discovered a mid 80's Japanese Squire for $150. So I traded up the Cort for an even trade on the Squire and bought another guitar there for $100 for the EMG single coils it had and transplanted them into the Squire.

A few years later I sold that squire for $400 - a profit of $300. :)

I do miss that guitar, but would not trade my American Deluxe for anything. :D


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Post subject: Re: Showing off my *fake* Stratocaster
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:58 am
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Buddy Pauly wrote:
One question though, to anyone reading. You guys have mentioned that this guitar may have Squier parts, I'm wondering if there's any way I can open her up and figure out just what she might be made out of? I find it difficult to believe such a nice looking and sounding guitar would be made out of junk.

Squiers aren't 'junk'

The line consists of everything from budget beginner guitars, right up to road worthy instruments. The line lacks the true high end, but they are arguably the best value per dollar in the Fender line.

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Post subject: Re: Showing off my *fake* Stratocaster
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:35 am
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BuddyPauly,
I would not have an issue if it did not have a Fender logo on it. My problem is that too many people build "strats" from non fender parts and slap the Fender sticker on, or purchase outright fakes from Chinese websites with the intention of just keeping it around to play for themselves, and never to put on the secondary market.
Next thing they know, circumstances change. Maybe that person falls on hard times, or upgrades to a better guitar, and that old fake Fender that they promised themselves they would never sell ends up on craigslist. This person can market it as a "Fender copy with a Fender logo", and maybe get $20-30. Or they can put it out as a legit Fender for cheap and hopefully get some poor sucker to dish out a couple of bills for it.
Ill bet 90% of the forum parted ways with their first ax years, if not decades ago. If you continue to play, BuddyPauly, you WILL ditch that thing in favor of a better guitar. Its just a matter of when. Now you seem like an honest chap, and not one to misrepresent that guitar when the time comes to get rid of it. But too many people fall into the other category. Just take the logo off, and when the day comes, you wont be tempted.
And if you think you didn't get taken because you like the guitar and it was only a bill, that thing is worth maybe half of what you paid. I wouldn't have given more than $20 for it.


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Post subject: Re: Showing off my *fake* Stratocaster
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:48 am
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bluesky636 wrote:
paris wrote:
You're right, it's a fake, but if you're happy with it I say, "what the Hell!"

I own two fake Fender's, I had built, myself and I love them. They are a mix of Fender and non-Fender parts. They look and play wondefully.

http://s1068.photobucket.com/albums/u45 ... C_0013.jpg

http://s1068.photobucket.com/albums/u45 ... T-bone.jpg

The Tele has one of Sentinel's water slide logos.

Good luck with the new guitar!


Fender aggressively defends their trademarks and logos. They are known for going after and sueing websites engaged in the manufacture and sale of unlicensed, illegal logos such as the one you are promoting. There is nothing on that site indicating that the decals they are selling are auhtorized by Fender or any other manufacturer. Your post and the website have been reported to Fender for their review and action. Sites such as this one have disappeared within weeks after Fender being notified of their existance. Promotion of such sites is a violation of the forum rules for which you could be banned.


Thanks for the info. I guess I should really read the rules a little more closely. I have since edited my posting and removed the portion about the logo and the website info.

I agree about the copy right thing. I don't believe people should sell Fake products as something they are not. For instance if I when I tell people about my guitars or if I were sell them, I always let them know up front that they are copies. I'm not trying to pass off a fake. I just think a blank headstocks looks ugly and I wouldn't feel right putting anything else on it.

I'll be a bit more careful in the future.

Thanks, again.


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