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Post subject: Re: Strat Plus DX in Rare Firestorm Finish - CSI Forensics
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:21 am
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greenheart wrote:
So I challenge you xhefri to prove that I am wrong.
Post some quality photos.

Prove your are wrong, small mind, No, prove you are right.
Put it together for all to see and call in the law and invite Fender to comment.
Right now, you are a softballer complainer.
Both sides are just gonna sit and type.
While fake Fenders are shipping . . .


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Post subject: Re: Strat Plus DX in Rare Firestorm Finish - CSI Forensics
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:22 am
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shweeson wrote:
I'm guessing the Albanian moron probably doesn't have time to take a quality picture with his demanding day job and what not.....probably can't afford a good camera with his 600 guitar collection....LOL....doesn't a vampire evaporate when exposed to daylight???

Now you cannot convince anyone?
Gotta fight like a baby?
Where do you get your stuff, softballer?
Cut the crap and get some proof. Why continue the fight?
Take your knowledge and energy to show the Fender fans
that there are fakes. Call the law. Do something besides whinny baby stuff.


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Post subject: Re: Strat Plus DX in Rare Firestorm Finish - CSI Forensics
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:36 am
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tbazzone wrote:
sweeass and greendick you two should crawl under the rock where you came from. Your getting nothing from this.


ANOTHER Cry Baby Softballer :lol: :lol: :lol:
Aren't you concerned Greeenie has even a romote something to prove?
Instead you crawl under back where you came from and sling softballs.

This forum thread is lame.
Get Fender to investigate, instead of a bunch of softballers crying their tears.
If all of you weaklings would stand up and go to Fender, think something would happen?
But no. Just watch and cry. Lame.


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Post subject: Re: Strat Plus DX in Rare Firestorm Finish - CSI Forensics
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:37 am
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greenheart wrote:
So I'm going to sit here and wait for xhefri to take some good pictures of that guitar outside in the sun.......
Then I'm gonna take off my gloves. But I don't think he's gonna "Get In The Ring"

What gloves Greenhard?
Your hands are soft as your finger tips and mouth do all the exercise.
So far all you do is cry stalk and complain. Over ten pages. Don't you get it?
All words and not action. Go to the law. Not really sure, then shut up, cry baby.
What happened? YOU BUY A FAKE? YOU GOT FAKED OUT?


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Post subject: Re: Strat Plus DX in Rare Firestorm Finish - CSI Forensics
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:39 am
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Arc-n-spark wrote:
Sounds like a couple of trolls are looking to get banned.
I looked at the fine job the OP did on restoring this guitar and I find myself wishing I had a guitar just like it. I also wish I had the mad skills he has in taking an abused instrument and making it look like new again. A fine job Xhefri.

Knowing now that these guitars are hand finished can explain why there are a few small dots of black on the red areas. This is not proof of a fake. Camera settings can make pictures from one camera look very different from pictures from another so comparing pictures from different cameras and different custom bodies is moot.
I hope this thread can get back to the subject. I found it very intriguing until it got derailed.


Another softie whinny approach.
Standup and find out if Greenhard has any inkling of truth.
You fight like a softballer. Get some guitars to compare.
Do something. Encourage a resolution instead of softballing out.


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Post subject: Re: Strat Plus DX in Rare Firestorm Finish - CSI Forensics
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:46 am
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greenheart wrote:
I could make it this weekend if that is better....
Then we could go to church together.
And you could ask God to forgive you.



Greenbart, you need a bit of backbone and do more than yack.
I'll give you a couple of days to show something better than
your gossiping baby approach. You started the fake Fender issue.
Back it up. Where is the law? Got nothing but typed words?

You are on a mission, then get some bone and standup. Lamer.
GreeeeenSOFT, GET HARD.


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Post subject: Re: Strat Plus DX in Rare Firestorm Finish - CSI Forensics
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:49 am
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greenheart wrote:
here is a picture for all you smart $@! haters.

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Number 3 and 4 are fakes. You can easily tell by the way the colors are so different from the others. Man alive dude... you've been scammed.

Now we all know you don't know what you are talking about and never have known.

Peace out bro and good luck with the rest of your life. You'll need it.

Proves nothing. You could have copied or got that picture from anywhere.


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Post subject: Re: Strat Plus DX in Rare Firestorm Finish - CSI Forensics
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:55 am
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TomJ wrote:
Arc-n-spark wrote:
Sounds like a couple of trolls are looking to get banned.
I looked at the fine job the OP did on restoring this guitar and I find myself wishing I had a guitar just like it. I also wish I had the mad skills he has in taking an abused instrument and making it look like new again. A fine job Xhefri.

Knowing now that these guitars are hand finished can explain why there are a few small dots of black on the red areas. This is not proof of a fake. Camera settings can make pictures from one camera look very different from pictures from another so comparing pictures from different cameras and different custom bodies is moot.
I hope this thread can get back to the subject. I found it very intriguing until it got derailed.


Another softie whinny approach.
Standup and find out if Greenhard has any inkling of truth.
You fight like a softballer. Get some guitars to compare.
Do something. Encourage a resolution instead of softballing out.



Your comments are baseless and intended to anoy. Tis not my job to find out if anyone is truthful or not. I need not do anything but state my opinion as you do. Go away troll.

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Post subject: Re: Strat Plus DX in Rare Firestorm Finish - CSI Forensics
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:00 am
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Hey Xhefri.....got those photos yet???

How bout those letters of authenticity???

Any answers for the fender community before you are truly exposed???


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Post subject: Re: Strat Plus DX in Rare Firestorm Finish - CSI Forensics
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:07 am
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Hey now Xhefri ....quit running away.....coward....

You talk to Brad from Fender yet?


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Post subject: Re: Strat Plus DX in Rare Firestorm Finish - CSI Forensics
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:18 am
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This is just stupid.


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Post subject: Re: Strat Plus DX in Rare Firestorm Finish - CSI Forensics
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:20 am
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Go away David and play your squier......this doesn't concern you


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Post subject: Re: Strat Plus DX in Rare Firestorm Finish - CSI Forensics
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:29 am
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Hey Tomj.....That is the type of responses we need....someone who speaks logic....I was hoping that would have been the general reaction...."Let's get the fakes off the market".....Right on.....that is the goal here.....the problem is that with idiots like Xhefri out there displaying fakes as a trophy....it gives people misleading info....the fake bodies that xhefri bought need to be renamed as replicas.....and perhaps he could also post a picture of a real one on his site.....seeing that he has 600 guitars and a fancy web site and all.....day job obviously pays well....I think he should be the one to show us the difference between the real ones and the fakes.....don't you agree??.....why should we all have to run out and create a website to display our guitars.....that is his thing....all i"m saying is be a man and do the right thing....i'm sure we can all agree on that


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Post subject: Re: Strat Plus DX in Rare Firestorm Finish - CSI Forensics
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:48 am
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AaronK wrote:
I would have to say as a complete outsider, and someone who knows nothing about Firestorm Finishes that, just reading this thread from beginning to end, that I would have to side with the opinions of "GreenHeart" and "Shweeson", as they have some pretty hard facts and evidence.



Light in the darkness......that is exactly what will come to light....evidence and facts.....the truth is the truth....it can't be denied....

"They say turn the bright lights on.....and there you'll find the truth"


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Post subject: Re: Strat Plus DX in Rare Firestorm Finish - CSI Forensics
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:44 am
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Do I need to start all over again?

The first picture I posted was of a fake firestorm body between two Real strats in the firestorm finish. The fake body came from tenstarguitars. It still smelled like fresh paint.

Tenstarguitars seems to be selling alot of suspicious guitars on ebay. This has been reported to paypal and ebay.

Now, This fake body that I posted pictures of, looks exactly like the one pictured on xhefri's firestorm restoration page.

That cannot be denied.

It is obviously different than the one he had on his website a year ago.
The colors are not even close.

People accusing me of stealing photos.... You are wrong.

I went to the internet archive to get a couple photos of a firestorm strat that Used To Be on Xhefri's website.
If you compare the photos of what was on his site over a year ago, to what is pictured pictured today, you should see an obvious difference.

The photo that I posted of the two telecasters, and the photo of the five real fender guitars in the firestorm finish sitting on a couch are indeed real. If someone thinks I got those photos off of the internet, they are wrong. Try and find them, you wont.

I can post more photos of a very large collection of fenders in the firestorm finish.
And I can safely say that ALL of them are real.

But I think I have provided enough evidence.

And believe me when I say that I have done Much More than just drop this on the fender forum.

It is being thoroughly investigated.

This fake body that came from tenstarguitars.
And an obvious fake strat ultra sold on ebay for alot of money.

I invite fender to view or comment on this thread, or anyone else for that matter.

I spoke to my contact yesterday. I don't think this thread is going to disappear.
It has gotten the required attention.

I think people are waiting for Mr. Xhefri to post some quality photos of his so called firestorm strat.

If he does this, I will then post several close up photos of a large collection of Real Fender guitars in the firestorm finish.

Along with more photos of this fake firestorm body.

I will use the same lighting and angles that xhefri did.
Then we can let the fender community decide.


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