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Post subject: Re: Slightly Upgraded 60's Reverse Headstock Strat MIM
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This is the latest in my strat collection although I have a couple in the process of being finished as we speak. The only thing I've changed on this one is the strap buttons and the tuners. The buttons were swapped out for Schaller Locks and the tuners were replaced with 70's style "F" tuners. Almost forgot, I also had an "F" neck plate laying around so I slapped that on. The plan was originally to only replace the pickguard with a three or four ply tortoise shell, being that it came stock with a one-ply white, but the more I've played it the less the one ply guard bothers me. I don't know if you can see but, I also added a sweet Levy's Hendrix strap, just for good measure. I still can't get over how great these play and sound. If you keep your eyes peeled you can find them periodically on Musician's friend for three ninety nine. That's less than half off list! Now don't get me wrong, it's not quite the Voodoo Strat, which was the American version of the same guitar, but at one third the price, you really can't go wrong. My only complaint: They don't fit in a regular Fender Tolex case, so for now I'm using the deluxe gig bag it came with.

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I really like this reverse but it has always bugged me to think that Fender is more interested in making the Fender logo on the headstock legible than authenticity.


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I really like this reverse but it has always bugged me to think that Fender is more interested in making the Fender logo on the headstock legible than authenticity.


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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:13 am
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I really like this reverse but it has always bugged me to think that Fender is more interested in making the Fender logo on the headstock legible than authenticity.


'Zactly.



Now there's a sharp eye for ya!....and I third the opinion.

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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:17 pm
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Strataholic wrote:
strauboids wrote:
This is the latest in my strat collection although I have a couple in the process of being finished as we speak. The only thing I've changed on this one is the strap buttons and the tuners. The buttons were swapped out for Schaller Locks and the tuners were replaced with 70's style "F" tuners. Almost forgot, I also had an "F" neck plate laying around so I slapped that on. The plan was originally to only replace the pickguard with a three or four ply tortoise shell, being that it came stock with a one-ply white, but the more I've played it the less the one ply guard bothers me. I don't know if you can see but, I also added a sweet Levy's Hendrix strap, just for good measure. I still can't get over how great these play and sound. If you keep your eyes peeled you can find them periodically on Musician's friend for three ninety nine. That's less than half off list! Now don't get me wrong, it's not quite the Voodoo Strat, which was the American version of the same guitar, but at one third the price, you really can't go wrong. My only complaint: They don't fit in a regular Fender Tolex case, so for now I'm using the deluxe gig bag it came with.

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I really like this reverse but it has always bugged me to think that Fender is more interested in making the Fender logo on the headstock legible than authenticity.


I know what you mean, however Fender has released several more accurate versions of the Hendrix Strat. One was called (I think) the Jimi Hendrix tribute stratocaster, which was a white '68 or '69 strat reissue except for being a mirror image of his guitar. In other words, it was a left handed guitar strung for a righty, and mirrored even down to the Fender logo. (I don't remember if the "F's" on the tuners were reversed, probably not.) Then there was the voodoo-caster, which was similar to the one I have except that it was American-made (like the "Tribute") and, once again, there was more attention to accuracy as far as the original specs. One major difference between the Voodoo and the Reverse Headstock 60's was that (if I remember correctly) the Voodoo also had a lefty tremolo (much like the SRV strat) to mimic the way it would have been to play the way Jimi did, other than the cutaway. Then there's the fact that the first two guitars were licensed by the Hendrix estate. (There was actually a contest that Fender ran, wherein the winner would receive a Hendrix Tribute Strat, signed by Al Hendrix! Not their brightest moment.) This clearly would increase the cost of any instrument. So the fact that my guitar didn't have all the accouterments expected of the other models didn't bother me. Especially seeing as I paid about one third the selling price of the Tribute or the Voodoo, even after all the mods I did. I have to admit though, the Al Hendrix autograph thing still bothers me.

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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:06 pm
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At the end of the day, the uniqueness of this configuration is the added wood in the headstock, the reverse in the bridge pickup and what that brings to the output signal and ultimately, the tone. However, if you're not playing the guitar upsidedown and reversed ala Jimi, Albert King, Doyle Bramhall, etc. you're going to miss a piece of the action. (I suggest a careful listen to Arc Angels if you haven't already. There's an artist who's guitar and sense of composition is a truely unique tonal signature. I derive a great amount of satisfaction from his writing.)

The rest of the romance is part of the legend and the folklore about Jimi. If you really want to immerse youself in that, I strongly suggest a pilgrimage to the Experience Music Project in Seattle, at least once, and allow yourself the whole day. There's a lot that goes on out there. It's quite a venue.

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Hey guys,
I'm new to guitar (I've been playing about a month) and just got my first Fender Stratocaster.
2008 Fender American Standard Stratocaster. I installed the pickguard myself, so hopefully I didn't screw up the setup, I had to take the neck off to get it to fit :P. I call my guitar "Captain America", lol. I'm gonna try to get some custom artwork done for another pickguard which actually has Captain America on it. :)
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Ceri wrote:
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Ceri, I think that he wrote that the guitar on the right of the pic is a 1922 Selmer classical.


Er... yes, I looked more carefully and you're right, that is exactly what he says.

Then I am completely confused, because that doesn't look anything like my idea of a Selmer - you know, the funny D-shape or oval-shape sound hole, and other cosmetics.

But it does look just like this simple little un-named guitar I inherited - from my undemonstrative grandmother. Surely she didn't have a Selmer...?!!

Again, if EdMardell is looking in, I'd be very grateful for any more information you can give about that instrument.

Sorry, people, I know this is nothing to do with Strats...


Hey dude - does your guitar have a three digit number on the bottom right of the body? Mine says 222 - and it is to my understanding only about 1000 selmer guitars were made originally. They were made in Charing Cross, London. This type of guitar, (as I'm told) was one of the first made - I believe that Selmer made them from 1922-32?

I got the guitar from an old friend who's now in his 80s, he played guitar a long while ago. It's currently in the restoration process, but here's the headstock:

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And the serial:

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At least I THINK it's a serial. Could be the name of the guitar..?

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I know it's not a strat, but I have a guitar that puts all of yours to shame:

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Yeah baby. I drink coffee just so I can use this!

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^ You might wanna take that to a tech, the neck looks pretty warped.

EDIT: Oh nevermind, typical Gibson quality :P

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Hey dude - does your guitar have a three digit number on the bottom right of the body? Mine says 222 - and it is to my understanding only about 1000 selmer guitars were made originally. They were made in Charing Cross, London. This type of guitar, (as I'm told) was one of the first made - I believe that Selmer made them from 1922-32?

I got the guitar from an old friend who's now in his 80s, he played guitar a long while ago. It's currently in the restoration process, but here's the headstock:

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And the serial:

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At least I THINK it's a serial. Could be the name of the guitar..?


Hey yes! I have that serial number - or something very similar. I'm away from home right now and can't check immediately, but that looks very familiar. And that must be the badge I'm missing on the headstock. How interesting! That nails it for sure.

My grandmother died in 2004 leaving a vast heap of stuff that I am still trying to address, on and off. Amongst her things was this little parlour guitar: she'd been a primary school teacher and I believe she would have used it for singing songs with the kids. She was a tiny woman: this instrument was tailor-made for her.

However, her guitar has had a horrible repair at some point. I guess the pickguard started to lift some time, and someone has fixed it down - with three brass screws. Ugh! I was going to use the guitar as a project: now I know more about it I have to think a little more carefully how to proceed. OK, it's not a 1920s Martin, but I feel inspired to treat it more thoughtfully. Wonder what to do about that p/g?

Listen, thank you so much for taking the time to get back to me. I really appreciate it, and the information you've provided. A star post! Many thanks.

Cheers to you - Ceri


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Ceri wrote:
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Hey dude - does your guitar have a three digit number on the bottom right of the body? Mine says 222 - and it is to my understanding only about 1000 selmer guitars were made originally. They were made in Charing Cross, London. This type of guitar, (as I'm told) was one of the first made - I believe that Selmer made them from 1922-32?

I got the guitar from an old friend who's now in his 80s, he played guitar a long while ago. It's currently in the restoration process, but here's the headstock:

(pic)

And the serial:

(pic)

At least I THINK it's a serial. Could be the name of the guitar..?


Hey yes! I have that serial number - or something very similar. I'm away from home right now and can't check immediately, but that looks very familiar. And that must be the badge I'm missing on the headstock. How interesting! That nails it for sure.

My grandmother died in 2004 leaving a vast heap of stuff that I am still trying to address, on and off. Amongst her things was this little parlour guitar: she'd been a primary school teacher and I believe she would have used it for singing songs with the kids. She was a tiny woman: this instrument was tailor-made for her.

However, her guitar has had a horrible repair at some point. I guess the pickguard started to lift some time, and someone has fixed it down - with three brass screws. Ugh! I was going to use the guitar as a project: now I know more about it I have to think a little more carefully how to proceed. OK, it's not a 1920s Martin, but I feel inspired to treat it more thoughtfully. Wonder what to do about that p/g?

Listen, thank you so much for taking the time to get back to me. I really appreciate it, and the information you've provided. A star post! Many thanks.

Cheers to you - Ceri


No problem - if you're from the UK then sounds like you may have the same as me for sure - not certain if they went to the USA, and as you say primary school, and not elementary, sounds like I'm talking to a fellow brit!

If you need any more info just email me at ejmmusic@hotmail.co.uk, I'll send you photos etc if you need them!

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No problem - if you're from the UK then sounds like you may have the same as me for sure - not certain if they went to the USA, and as you say primary school, and not elementary, sounds like I'm talking to a fellow brit!

If you need any more info just email me at ejmmusic@hotmail.co.uk, I'll send you photos etc if you need them!


Well, you are gentleman and no mistake. Thank you again.

Can't wait to get home (next week) and see what that number is. My memory is saying it is the identical "222", within which case it's a model number, right? If I've got different digits then it's a serial number? Strange place to put it, either way...

The colour and grain of my top wood looks just like yours in the photo. And I am sure the purfling is the same. I suspect we have ringers! 'Cept yours is in better nick...

I guessed from previous posts of yours that you were this side of the pond. Myself, I try to remember to talk about tubes, but sometimes I slip and let out a valve here and there. :wink:

All the best to you: now get back to that enviable family of guitars of yours!

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Ceri wrote:
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No problem - if you're from the UK then sounds like you may have the same as me for sure - not certain if they went to the USA, and as you say primary school, and not elementary, sounds like I'm talking to a fellow brit!

If you need any more info just email me at ejmmusic@hotmail.co.uk, I'll send you photos etc if you need them!


Well, you are gentleman and no mistake. Thank you again.

Can't wait to get home (next week) and see what that number is. My memory is saying it is the identical "222", within which case it's a model number, right? If I've got different digits then it's a serial number? Strange place to put it, either way...

The colour and grain of my top wood looks just like yours in the photo. And I am sure the purfling is the same. I suspect we have ringers! 'Cept yours is in better nick...

I guessed from previous posts of yours that you were this side of the pond. Myself, I try to remember to talk about tubes, but sometimes I slip and let out a valve here and there. :wink:

All the best to you: now get back to that enviable family of guitars of yours!

Cheers - C


Send me an email when you find out! I wanna know!

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