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Post subject: Why no tone control on the bridge pickup?
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:58 pm
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To me, the bridge pickup needs tone control more than the middle pickup. The bridge pup can just get so bright some times, it would be nice to pull it back a bit.

The middle pickup, meh... Just leave it wide open.

Am I correct in assuming this would be an easy fix and that it's probably been done many times before?


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Post subject: Re: Why no tone control on the bridge pickup?
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:01 pm
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Highline wrote:
Am I correct in assuming this would be an easy fix and that it's probably been done many times before?


Yes. It's as easy as relocating a single wire.

Many Strat players routinely perform this mod.

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Post subject: Re: Why no tone control on the bridge pickup?
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:55 pm
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Found an article where you simply solder a small wire from one post to another to make the middle tone control also control the bridge pickup. Seems so easy a caveman could do it (me!). Only question is there any loss of tone by doing this?

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Here's the article: http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2008/Dec/Strat_Bridge_Pickup_Tone_Control.aspx


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Post subject: Re: Why no tone control on the bridge pickup?
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:36 pm
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Highline wrote:
To me, the bridge pickup needs tone control more than the middle pickup. The bridge pup can just get so bright some times, it would be nice to pull it back a bit.

The middle pickup, meh... Just leave it wide open.

Am I correct in assuming this would be an easy fix and that it's probably been done many times before?


See page 2:

http://support.fender.com/service_diagr ... A_SISD.pdf

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Post subject: Re: Why no tone control on the bridge pickup?
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:37 pm
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Highline wrote:
Found an article where you simply solder a small wire from one post to another to make the middle tone control also control the bridge pickup. Seems so easy a caveman could do it (me!). Only question is there any loss of tone by doing this?

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Here's the article: http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2008/Dec/Strat_Bridge_Pickup_Tone_Control.aspx


See page 2:

http://support.fender.com/service_diagr ... C_SISD.pdf

No, there is no loss of tone.

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Post subject: Re: Why no tone control on the bridge pickup?
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:02 pm
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bluesky636 wrote:
Highline wrote:
Found an article where you simply solder a small wire from one post to another to make the middle tone control also control the bridge pickup. Seems so easy a caveman could do it (me!). Only question is there any loss of tone by doing this?

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Here's the article: http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2008/Dec/Strat_Bridge_Pickup_Tone_Control.aspx


See page 2:

http://support.fender.com/service_diagr ... C_SISD.pdf

No, there is no loss of tone.


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Post subject: Re: Why no tone control on the bridge pickup?
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:37 pm
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bluesky636 wrote:


Interesting, in comparing the wiring in the link you sent for the American Std., this mod already seems to be done, so you control the tone for the middle and bridge pickup out of the box. Whereas in looking at page 2 of the diagram for the MIM, it isn't hooked up that way.

http://support.fender.com/service_diagr ... D_SISD.pdf


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Post subject: Re: Why no tone control on the bridge pickup?
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:22 pm
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Interesting, in comparing the wiring in the link you sent for the American Std., this mod already seems to be done, so you control the tone for the middle and bridge pickup out of the box. Whereas in looking at page 2 of the diagram for the MIM, it isn't hooked up that way.

http://support.fender.com/service_diagr ... D_SISD.pdf


Ummm, Fender has been building the Americans and MIMs like that for a number of years. It is nothing new. Why everyone thinks it is, is beyond me. The MIM Standard mimics the way Leo first built the Strat. The American guitars (except for the reissues) changed that.

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Post subject: Re: Why no tone control on the bridge pickup?
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:39 pm
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Highline wrote:
Found an article where you simply solder a small wire from one post to another to make the middle tone control also control the bridge pickup. Seems so easy a caveman could do it (me!). Only question is there any loss of tone by doing this?

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Here's the article: http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2008/Dec/Strat_Bridge_Pickup_Tone_Control.aspx


Instead of wiring it that way. In the drawing if you run a jumper from the 3rd lug from the left on the bottom row over to the 1st lug from the left on the bottom row you will have your tone control on the bridge/neck together and the middle pup will have it's own. That way when you have two pup selected you will have tone control on each since you can't select the bridge and neck together.

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Post subject: Re: Why no tone control on the bridge pickup?
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:15 pm
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Instead of wiring it that way. In the drawing if you run a jumper from the 3rd lug from the left on the bottom row over to the 1st lug from the left on the bottom row you will have your tone control on the bridge/neck together and the middle pup will have it's own. That way when you have two pup selected you will have tone control on each since you can't select the bridge and neck together.


I can see how that might be a good option but my bridge pickup is so much brighter than my neck pickup, it would be good to roll it off a little to balance them out.

I appreciate everyone's input on how to adjust my pickups' output!


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Post subject: Re: Why no tone control on the bridge pickup?
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:40 pm
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No. The idea behind that is that you never have the bridge and neck selected at the same time on a standard strat so:

neck: 1 tone control
neck middle: 2 tone knobs working one for each
middle: 1 tone knob
middle bridge: 2 tone knobs one each
bridge: 1 tone knob

The disadvantage is that if you want one setting for the bridge (say 3) and a different setting for the neck (say 7) and your swapping back and forth you have to twirl that knob every time.

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Post subject: Re: Why no tone control on the bridge pickup?
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:31 pm
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No. The idea behind that is that you never have the bridge and neck selected at the same time on a standard strat so:

neck: 1 tone control
neck middle: 2 tone knobs working one for each
middle: 1 tone knob
middle bridge: 2 tone knobs one each
bridge: 1 tone knob

The disadvantage is that if you want one setting for the bridge (say 3) and a different setting for the neck (say 7) and your swapping back and forth you have to twirl that knob every time.


Makes sense. Guess I was looking for the easy way out, keeping the bridge set (at say, 3) and the neck set (at say, 7) and not having to roll the knob when I swap back and forth. Probably would be good though to be able to turn the middle pup down (or up) in positions 2 and 4 and vice versa on the neck or bridge pup. You're right, that's probably the better way to go.

Thanks.


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Post subject: Re: Why no tone control on the bridge pickup?
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:55 pm
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Highline wrote:
Makes sense. Guess I was looking for the easy way out, keeping the bridge set (at say, 3) and the neck set (at say, 7) and not having to roll the knob when I swap back and forth. Probably would be good though to be able to turn the middle pup down (or up) in positions 2 and 4 and vice versa on the neck or bridge pup. You're right, that's probably the better way to go.

Thanks.


In your original post you said:

"To me, the bridge pickup needs tone control more than the middle pickup. The bridge pup can just get so bright some times, it would be nice to pull it back a bit.

The middle pickup, meh... Just leave it wide open.

Am I correct in assuming this would be an easy fix and that it's probably been done many times before?"

The link I posted earlier does exactly what you asked for:

See page 2:

http://support.fender.com/service_diagr ... A_SISD.pdf

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Post subject: Re: Why no tone control on the bridge pickup?
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:03 pm
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bluesky636 wrote:
Highline wrote:
Makes sense. Guess I was looking for the easy way out, keeping the bridge set (at say, 3) and the neck set (at say, 7) and not having to roll the knob when I swap back and forth. Probably would be good though to be able to turn the middle pup down (or up) in positions 2 and 4 and vice versa on the neck or bridge pup. You're right, that's probably the better way to go.

Thanks.


In your original post you said:

"To me, the bridge pickup needs tone control more than the middle pickup. The bridge pup can just get so bright some times, it would be nice to pull it back a bit.

The middle pickup, meh... Just leave it wide open.

Am I correct in assuming this would be an easy fix and that it's probably been done many times before?"

The link I posted earlier does exactly what you asked for:

See page 2:

http://support.fender.com/service_diagr ... A_SISD.pdf


Something about leading a horse to water comes to mind currently...


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Post subject: Re: Why no tone control on the bridge pickup?
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:22 pm
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Rob Millette wrote:
bluesky636 wrote:
Highline wrote:
Makes sense. Guess I was looking for the easy way out, keeping the bridge set (at say, 3) and the neck set (at say, 7) and not having to roll the knob when I swap back and forth. Probably would be good though to be able to turn the middle pup down (or up) in positions 2 and 4 and vice versa on the neck or bridge pup. You're right, that's probably the better way to go.

Thanks.


In your original post you said:

"To me, the bridge pickup needs tone control more than the middle pickup. The bridge pup can just get so bright some times, it would be nice to pull it back a bit.

The middle pickup, meh... Just leave it wide open.

Am I correct in assuming this would be an easy fix and that it's probably been done many times before?"

The link I posted earlier does exactly what you asked for:

See page 2:

http://support.fender.com/service_diagr ... A_SISD.pdf


Something about leading a horse to water comes to mind currently...


Or a case of not really understanding what you want. :lol:

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