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Post subject: Ok Pickup Experts.....
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:59 pm
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I am fiarly new to the Strat-world, I generally play Les Paul's. I bought a nice MIM strat, 3 tone brown sunburst black pickgaurd, maple neck. The Pups sound very thin to me. I am used to playin buckers, so I'm not sure if the change in guitar is messing with me. When I plugg into my amp..I have to crank my bass up and kill my hights , just in order to get a decent tone out of it.

I do want to add, that I do not have this problem with my lespaul (humbuckers). I want a nice warm bluesy, jazz sound. I was looking @ the fender custom 69 set...because I love the Gilmore/hendrix clean and dirty sound. Can anyone point me in the right direction, or comment on the 69 pickups. I need to know specifics....how they sound...clean...with distortion...etc etc

thanks alot!!!


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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:06 pm
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before you spend your loot, try this: set your amp back to the way your used to, and on the strat, select the bridge and middle pups together. turn your tone knobs all the way down (counter clockwise) this is probably the closest sound to humbucking you'll pull outta a strat. if you dont like the way that sounds, then yeah, you probably need to go shopping


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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:55 pm
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Yeah, I tried that..and it sounds "ok" I just want it to sound a little more versitale.


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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:25 pm
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That's why I have both a Strat and a Les Paul.
One isn't a substitute for the other...


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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:58 pm
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Dear Paul,
I think going from buckers to singlecoils is not an easy transition as the guitar sounds kind of less ballsy and thinner. Before you change your pups, I think you should get used to their sound. If you keep playing your singles you will realise that they react differently than the HBs. Most importantly, play with the dynamics (I don't think HBs are so good here). Dig into the string and "strive" for the note you're looking for. Hard picking makes a difference here, and the transitions from hard to soft and vice-versa are really expressive. Also, play around with the pup selector, the vol and tone knobs. Singlecoils are generally more difficult but they offer so much..Anyway, only after you've done these things, having interpreted them your way of course, should you start shopping for new SCs. You will be experienced and therefore more certain as to what you're looking for.


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I have messee around with the different pickups, and tone knowbs. I have several issues with the pups...

One, they are extremely noisey....

They are VERY thin sounding....

I have played strats before..and didn't come across this problem...I am not expecting a humbucker sound...but i do crave tone and a reasonable about a noise on the pickup is expected......


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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:07 pm
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I had the same problem with my MIM Strat, but then I replaced my pickups with some EMG-SA's and that fixed the problem right away. Big, thick tone, Gilmore actually used a set so if that's the sound you are going for, I'd check them out. They also have very little hum compared to alot of passive pickups.

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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:58 pm
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I have two different settings I use on my amps, one for my Strat, one for my Guild and Epiphones.

Sorry I can't help you with info about the 69 pickups.

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I have a set of the CS 69's in one of my Strats. These pickups have more of a thumping bass than the stock Strat pickups. This is especially noticable in the neck position. The highs have a slightly thinner or more transparent tone, still plenty of Strat jangle and quack. The bridge pickup has a more pronounced and focused grit to it than the stock pickups. Still if your looking for humbucker tone from these, you probably won't find it.
Although I like the CS 69 in the bridge, I ended up installing a stacked humbucker in that position. There are many different ones available depending on the tone you want. I opted for a DiMarzio Super Distortion pickup. Plenty of high gain, and harmonics. Keep in mind the high output pickup in the bridge will also effect the tone in the in-between (#4) switch position. If you are partial to playing in that position you will lose alot of the normal tone there.


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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:08 am
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Not sure what you bought - new or used, but check your pickup height. You can signifigantly change the sound by raising and lowering your pickup heights.


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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:59 am
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any suggestions on how the pickup height should be set????


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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:05 am
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Copied this from the support page...


Standard Single-Coil -- 5/64" (2 mm) on the bass side and 4/64" (1.6 mm) on the treble side.


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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:29 am
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I know you just bought the thing, but, maybe a Standard MIM HSS strat would have been a good choice. EMG's kick butt and so does a Duncan hot rail in the bridge position.


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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:13 pm
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That's why amps have knobs on them, to change the sound.

I always find humbuckers to bassy and lacking highs lol.

Never heard Jimi complain about his Stratocasters. :lol:

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I posted this in another topic www.kinman.com and wonder if anybody has tried these out. The work that Chris Kinman put into his patented design is impressive and the sound bites that he offers are good. Somebody needs to try these and let me know how they sound. (That way, I don't have to buy them) LOL .....J


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