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Post subject: Re: ...on the Clapton 'blocked' trem
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:34 am
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To further confuse matters, here is a "Blackie" replica currently on sale at Maken Music. Check out the location of it's trem claw:
http://www.makenmusic.com/product.cfm?p ... 08&catID=1


As I suspected, before reaching the bottm of the page, this is a pre-owned instrument whose trem system was likely adjusted by the current owner to conform to the image on the back of the catalog, which Alain posted up top.

Hope Mike Eldred will jump into this discussion.



Or the one in the GC site was misadjusted to begin with and the one on Maken Music is adjusted as delivered. 50-50 chance with insufficient information to draw a conclusion either way. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: ...on the Clapton 'blocked' trem
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:35 am
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:lol: Yeah, none of the pictures show any block of wood. I think that it was the Fender site that mentioned the replica with the block of wood, even though the pictures show no block. IIRC, the consensus was that there were no blocks in the original or the replicas despite any descriptions, and the sig Strats came with a block.

BHB4?

Found this old discussion about the block of wood. :oops:
http://www.fender.com/community/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41606



I vaguely remember that thread. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: ...on the Clapton 'blocked' trem
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:29 am
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So here it is ealier than scheduled:
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Those three were masterbuilt as for EC himself by the great Masterbuilder Todd Krause..
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Post subject: Re: ...on the Clapton 'blocked' trem
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:15 pm
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I'm missing something I think.
Blackie did not have the block...of course Eric had'nt been playing that guitar for a LONG while.
The block is put in there for "insurance" so that there is absolutely no movement on that trem.

Tightening the claw all the way will suffice, but that is what was requested by the artist, so we do it.

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Post subject: Re: ...on the Clapton 'blocked' trem
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:43 pm
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Mike Eldred - Fender wrote:
I'm missing something I think.
Blackie did not have the block...of course Eric had'nt been playing that guitar for a LONG while.
The block is put in there for "insurance" so that there is absolutely no movement on that trem.

Tightening the claw all the way will suffice, but that is what was requested by the artist, so we do it.

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Well, unless someone can get Mr. Clapton to explain why he requested the wood block, I think we're done. :D

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Post subject: Re: ...on the Clapton 'blocked' trem
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:48 pm
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Well, I called Eric this morning and asked that question and he said it's a secret.


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Post subject: Re: ...on the Clapton 'blocked' trem
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:07 pm
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mymindsok wrote:
Well, I called Eric this morning and asked that question and he said it's a secret.


Yeah. He hasn't responded to my repeated e-mails either. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: ...on the Clapton 'blocked' trem
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:26 pm
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That makes sense....I think. EC asked for the block at some point, maybe for the first sig series and subsequent EC Strats, and the block comes with his sig series and CS Strats. Only the original Blackie and the replicas have no block. Although "Blackie" appears on the headstock, the sig series weren't meant to duplicate the real Blackie, but were made for EC needs at the time, so they have a block as requested. The replicas were made to duplicate Blackie, and since Blackie had no block, neither do the replicas, which were made long after the sig series started. Is that about right?

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Post subject: Re: ...on the Clapton 'blocked' trem
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:42 pm
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shimmilou wrote:
That makes sense....I think. EC asked for the block at some point, maybe for the first sig series and subsequent EC Strats, and the block comes with his sig series and CS Strats. Only the original Blackie and the replicas have no block. Although "Blackie" appears on the headstock, the sig series weren't meant to duplicate the real Blackie, but were made for EC needs at the time, so they have a block as requested. The replicas were made to duplicate Blackie, and since Blackie had no block, neither do the replicas, which were made long after the sig series started. Is that about right?


By Jove, I think you've got it. :lol:

I believe that I read somewhere that the guitars built for EC do not say "Blackie" or have EC's sig on them. That kind of makes sense since they are not replicas of Blackie and maybe EC feels it is bragging or something to play a guitar with his name on it. Just another of life's little mysteries. :D

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Post subject: Re: ...on the Clapton 'blocked' trem
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:19 am
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FYI:Alain's guitar is one of a trio Todd did in 2003 specified 'as built for the artist. Hence, with that and Mike's kind contribution we should see this as that previous thread brought forward to a conclusion, save foor the question of the choice of wood for the block. Does it matter. Waiting on consumer relations for that·

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Post subject: Re: ...on the Clapton 'blocked' trem
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:24 am
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That makes sense....I think. EC asked for the block at some point, maybe for the first sig series and subsequent EC Strats, and the block comes with his sig series and CS Strats. Only the original Blackie and the replicas have no block. Although "Blackie" appears on the headstock, the sig series weren't meant to duplicate the real Blackie, but were made for EC needs at the time, so they have a block as requested. The replicas were made to duplicate Blackie, and since Blackie had no block, neither do the replicas, which were made long after the sig series started. Is that about right?


By Jove, I think you've got it. :lol:

I believe that I read somewhere that the guitars built for EC do not say "Blackie" or have EC's sig on them. That kind of makes sense since they are not replicas of Blackie and maybe EC feels it is bragging or something to play a guitar with his name on it. Just another of life's little mysteries. :D

I've referenced that in earlier posts. Pulled his signature at least 10 years ago.

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Post subject: Re: ...on the Clapton 'blocked' trem
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:12 pm
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By email today from FMIC....the wood block is maple. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: ...on the Clapton 'blocked' trem
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:40 am
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I've had my EC strat for decades and never used the trem, but lately i've been hankering after having the option of having it there for a lot of cool melodic stuff, (after watching Jeff Beck doing superb stuff on his sig strat i might add.)

Anyway i was missing the spring for the trem arm hole so i got one and it's playing beautifully. Now i'm able to add in some beautiful shimmer to chords etc. etc.

I don't know, but to me; something's missing if you have a strat and you don't use the arm. It almost feels like you'd have been better off buying a hard tail strat from the beginning rather than having something that has parts you don't utilise.

Incidentally my Clapton never had the block of wood when i bought it from the shop, though i got it in about the late 80's.

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Post subject: Re: ...on the Clapton 'blocked' trem
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:48 am
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Gorgon: That's why you can't have just one..... :wink:

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Post subject: Re: ...on the Clapton 'blocked' trem
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:09 pm
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Gorgon: That's why you can't have just one..... :wink:

Oh definitely! I wish i had a whole room full of them! ah well i can dream!

It's interesting this thread as no one seems to really know for sure about the wooden block thing.

I used to just use the five springs and tighten the claw up and i used it like that, for years and years i didn't even know Eric had that little block of wood in his guitars.

Mine is one of the earlier one's with the Lace Sensors, i wish i had one of the new one's with the noiseless pickups as they look more vintage! :)

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