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Post subject: Cure for the "g" string clank????
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:25 pm
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Ok guys,
I've noticed this on my hr 62, cp 60s
My friends am STD , and several other YouTube videos.
It almost sounds like fret buzz, but I know for sure it's not.
At 1st , the nut came to mind, I havent fully relieved that
possibility. It happens more when Im fretting a note.

I have deduced it to the bore in the block, meant to take
Fender bullets, I'm using diadarrio 10s. Idk maybe it's vibrating
in there.
Any suggestions?

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Post subject: Re: Cure for the "g" string clank????
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:28 pm
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is it a wound G or plain steel string?

once I had the same problem with a B string and it was just a loose saddle screw buzzing around. I have also had wound strings buzz like that because the wrap was loose on the core wire.

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Post subject: Re: Cure for the "g" string clank????
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:14 pm
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somebizarredude wrote:
is it a wound G or plain steel string?

once I had the same problem with a B string and it was just a loose saddle screw buzzing around. I have also had wound strings buzz like that because the wrap was loose on the core wire.


Plain, I'm gonna try a set of fender bullets, I'm guessing
the ball sits in a position where it rattles alittle.

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Post subject: Re: Cure for the "g" string clank????
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:52 pm
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bluesstrattone wrote:
somebizarredude wrote:
is it a wound G or plain steel string?

once I had the same problem with a B string and it was just a loose saddle screw buzzing around. I have also had wound strings buzz like that because the wrap was loose on the core wire.


Plain, I'm gonna try a set of fender bullets, I'm guessing
the ball sits in a position where it rattles alittle.


The string is under tension. How can it rattle? Bullets didn't exist when the Strat was developed.

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Post subject: Re: Cure for the "g" string clank????
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:18 pm
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bluesstrattone wrote:
Ok guys,
I've noticed this on my hr 62, cp 60s
My friends am STD , and several other YouTube videos.
It almost sounds like fret buzz, but I know for sure it's not.
At 1st , the nut came to mind, I havent fully relieved that
possibility. It happens more when Im fretting a note.

I have deduced it to the bore in the block, meant to take
Fender bullets, I'm using diadarrio 10s. Idk maybe it's vibrating
in there.
Any suggestions?


G-string????STD?????? :shock:

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Post subject: Re: Cure for the "g" string clank????
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:25 pm
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good point :lol:

im gonna set it up, im not ruling out fret buzz just yet.
i was too quick on judging that it cant be fret buzz.

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Post subject: Re: Cure for the "g" string clank????
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:28 pm
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super kid wrote:
bluesstrattone wrote:
Ok guys,
I've noticed this on my hr 62, cp 60s
My friends am STD , and several other YouTube videos.
It almost sounds like fret buzz, but I know for sure it's not.
At 1st , the nut came to mind, I havent fully relieved that
possibility. It happens more when Im fretting a note.

I have deduced it to the bore in the block, meant to take
Fender bullets, I'm using diadarrio 10s. Idk maybe it's vibrating
in there.
Any suggestions?


G-string????STD?????? :shock:


dont you just hate when that happens??? :mrgreen:

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Post subject: Re: Cure for the "g" string clank????
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:07 pm
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I had the exact same problem, my issue was that one of the 2 posts that you use to set the height of the saddle was lifted slightly. The reason the saddle didn't tip to the side was because the saddle was wedged between all the other saddles. So basically the left post lifted, wasn't under any pressure and just rattled in the threaded hole.

Half a turn with an allen key and it was fixed.

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Post subject: Re: Cure for the "g" string clank????
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:36 am
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well i would remove the string and clean your nut thouroghly with some dental flosh to lubricate it just to rule that out. do the same for your saddles. tightn the saddle height screws as suggested above the make sure your intonation screw is forced to the bridge. as in force your saddle tword the neck as much as possible. look at your springs and make sure that they are under "some" load and that they arnt somehow broke or streched or loose.then i guess maaaaybee your tremolo arm could have rattle just inspect it i know its only your g string but sometimes only one frequency induces such noises. i hada amp them when u played high octave Es it would hava wire vibrate in back.


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Your G string clanks?
Try tightening up your butt cheeks. :P

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Post subject: Re: Cure for the "g" string clank????
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:24 am
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Screamin' Armadillo wrote:
Your G string clanks?
Try tightening up your butt cheeks. :P


It only clanks when I walk, I don't know if that makes a difference
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They are my artificial truck nuts

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Post subject: Re: Cure for the "g" string clank????
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:14 pm
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This often happens when the nut is cut a little bit too big for the string. Experiment to track down the problem. Loosen the string and put a thing small piece of paper under it in the nut groove and re-tune. If the clank goes away that is the problem. There are several ways to fix it from there....

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Post subject: Re: Cure for the "g" string clank????
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:13 pm
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Strats and Tele's both suffer with an almost square wave sounding open G unless you go down to a .013" or up to a .020". It's a design fault of the headstock.
If you are experiencing that it can be cured by a very careful, delicate bit of nut slot adjustment. Increase the break angle within the slot to facilitate a sharper break point. Also put a couple more winds on the string to force the string down the tuner post and increase the break angle. Or alternatively staggered height tuners are said to work. I never find them to be enough.

If the problem happens on fretted notes, start at the bridge saddle then work your way forwards.
Saddle height screws (great suggestion previous)
Break angle behind the saddle.
Groove worn into the saddle.
String height.
Pickup height.
Fret wear. (indents)
Fret wear. (frets off level)
Truss rod (too little bow to the neck)
Tuner posts.

Thats the way I'd go at it.

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Post subject: Re: Cure for the "g" string clank????
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:35 pm
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you raise many good points..
i did a complete setup, truss rod, bridge adjustment, saddle height,im not sure it its the
nut, it happens when the notes are fretted.
less now.

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Post subject: Re: Cure for the "g" string clank????
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:30 am
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If it happens when the string is fretted, you can rule out the nut. I included it because it's a part of every Strat and Tele I've played.

Honestly spend about fifteen minutes going over the points I've mentioned above. Start at the bridge and work your way up towards the headstock. It's easy to overlook something on a set up, we've all done it. You can rest assured though, the cause is 95% going to be happening along the talk length of the string.
All the best with it mate. Setups just wouldn't be any fun if you didn't have to occasionally do a bit of Sherlock Holmes style detective work.

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