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Post subject: New ambitious endevor; putting a Timmy OD circuit in a Strat
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:35 am
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So I'm going to be receiving my 3rd and 4th Tim and Timmy OD from Paul Cochrane in the next few weeks. I bought the Tim for my girlfriend who's also a guitar player (and though i'd never admit it to her, a better guitar player than i am :? ). Due to the fact it can take from 4-8 months from the day you order to the day it shows up(years ago it was a year), i figured id order another Timmy, at the time i thought to get it incase mine crapped the bed, now i have a different idea. To anyone who owns and likes the Fulltone OCD that hasnt tried or looked into the Tim and Timmy overdrives, you really should. They're marketed as a transparent overdrive, clean bosst; and they do both better than anything Ive EVER come across. I owned a OCD for about a month, i didnt like it at all. I found that while pretty transparent, it added too much treble for my tastes. The Timmy i believe (besides having the best name for a pedal that exists), is the pedal the OCD wishes it was.

So i already own a Timmy and a Tim (which is basically just a Timmy on one side, with an additional GAIN (not volume) boost, and a built in effects loop. So i've decided that instead of using it as a back up, I'm going to go another way. The Timmy, like the Zendrive, and other exceptional overdrives, all seem to have very hew components to them. If you open up a Zendrive, it has an op amp, and like 7 or 8 other parts, all caps and resistors (not including switch, and knobs).

I did a setup on a clapton strat, and the active mid boost got me to think; What if i put in a boost, but instead of using the normal mid boost circuitry, i take apart the Timmy and install that into the strat. I can set it to work as a transparent (VERY transparent), or clean boost.

Getting the unit and battery compartment to fit isnt an issue, I already routed a MIM reissue body for it. The only thing im trying to figure out, is how to incorporate the 4 control knobs that are on the pedal. I havent figured out it I want to just set the Bass and Treble to permanent position, or to make an opening in the back of the body to allow me to reach either those pots, or some pots I use that i'll connect to where the other pots were.

I mapped it out, and this seems very do-able, and I think when its done, its going to blow some guitar players minds. The fact that I'll have a clean boost, or a transparent overdrive built into the guitar, will make some room on my pedal board.

When it's finished (which could be months with all the other work i have to do), i'll do a quick rundown on how it worked out, some pics of how it was installed, and some sound clips.

I fixed the Weller this morning, i have to fix someones Big Muff. Once that's done, Im going to start on the Timmy.

Cheers.

**PS; to be fair to Fulltone, the OCD i got was version 4, which i think is not as good as the earlier ones. I owned an original one years ago, and loved it. This version i just dont.


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Post subject: Re: New ambitious endevor; putting a Timmy OD circuit in a S
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:31 am
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Hello, This is a great idea. I've thought the same thing about trying to do something similar yet all together different to the mid boost in the clapton strats. I'd Like to be able to Switch from active to passive with mid boost on my middle pu and a treble boost on my bridge. That would be good for more modern tone and a true vintage tone as well. Sometimes having a mid boost dirtys the signal from the guitar by overloading the pots using the active circuit... Being able to control just how dirty it gets with multiple pickup options would be the deal, could you imagine being able to blend that dirtiness of the bridge with the warmth from the middle pu with mid boost? or having active pus blended with passive, and being able to change polarity of individual pickups? It goes on and on and on...

You may consider replacing the pots with some Flush mount 500k thumb pots. It would take some time to engineer but I think it would be awesome. You could adjust the timmy from the back of the guitar and not ever have to worry about bumping them or changing how the guitar looks.

I believe you are pioneering the future of strat mods with this one. Keep us posted on your progress.


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Post subject: Re: New ambitious endevor; putting a Timmy OD circuit in a S
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:53 am
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Yeah, the switch and puts will come our of it, and ill either set it to unity, or ill route the back of the guitar. The AC Jack will come off. I have a Tim and Timmy, and ordered another back in June, so it should be ready by next month. The board it uses is small, and has only a few components. I figured the Timmy would be best one to use since it stays so transparent even with the gain up.
It wont be wired like the mid boost. Its going to basically the same as having the pedal on the floor at the beginning of the chain, it will just be in the guitar so it wont affect anything when its off or the battery dies.


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Post subject: Re: New ambitious endevor; putting a Timmy OD circuit in a S
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:03 am
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I believe that with the clapton mid-boost, you're supposed to use a low value pot for the volume, 50K I believe. the tone pots are different all together with the TBX and the control for the active boost.


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Post subject: Re: New ambitious endevor; putting a Timmy OD circuit in a S
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:54 am
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TO make this work, ihave to still be able to have access to the swich from the pedal, or put a smaller one with a different button. So the output after the pickups run from the main 5 way switch, to the volume and tone pots> input (which will obviously have to be modified so its hard wired because i cant very well have a 1/4 jack inside the guitar running to the Timmy's input), then the output of the Timmy hardwired to the guitar jack.

That way when the boost/od is off, its true-byassed out, so no coloration, and it just goes on when i want it. I'll also be able to really fine tune the boosted output signal; since the signal is going to run through the guitars tone pots first, then through the Timmy, at which point you can use those tone circuits, which unlike EVERY other pedal in existence, rolls the highs and bass off as you turn them up. But I believe the treble circuit is pre drive stage, and the bass is post drive, or vice versa.
Since the Tim/TImmy is SO TRANSPARENT, I think itd be a natural combo. I understand the reasoning behind the Clapton boost, but I dont really want a midboost, i want the whole EQ frequency range to go up and fatten up.


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