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Post subject: Reducing the high E strings bite
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:53 am
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I put up a post asking if and to what degree they slant their pickups up toward the treble side. I had to use nickel plated steel strings instead of my normal pure nickel that I use on Strats due to their warmer tone, I find nickel plated too harsh, especially on the bridge pickup.
Someone mentioned that they didn't use their bridge pickup that much for that reason. I PM'd them how to make a tone circuit that was more useable than a typical one.
Anyways, I rewired my Strat three times, and broke the high E, twice. I wasn't able to replace it with my pure nickel, so I had to resort to an old Jerry rig to reduce the treble.
Anyone who's a SRV fan may know this already, but a lot don't. It was done by Rene Martinez, srv's tech, and an idol to me for his unorthodox way of addressing common issues that come up. Stevie used to break countless string in concert. Much of this was due to the design of Fender's saddles, which is why even if you don't like his blocks or tremolo's, its worth getting his saddles because they don't have the issue of the string pressing against the opening of the d
saddle before actually going over the saddle
He addressed thus by first filling and taking the sharp edge off the contact point.
But he also would take a piece of insulation from a wire, probably a 22 gauge, or something big enough that you could feed the string through, and feeding it down toward the Area where the string rests on the saddle.
Along with keeping the string from breaking at the saddle (a problem I don't have because I use callaham's saddles that have larger openings), it also lessens the harsh bite of the high e. Now this isn't as permanent as how Eric Johnson addressEd the E on his (by fitting the top of an old nylon saddle from a Gibson, but its easy.


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Post subject: Re: Reducing the high E strings bite
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:24 am
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Rene used a dremel to grind the holes edge smooth and used a 5/8" long piece of plastic tubing they said they used vintage replacement saddle when they wore out


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Post subject: Re: Reducing the high E strings bite
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:56 am
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windwalker9649 wrote:
..... I had to use nickel plated steel strings instead of my normal pure nickel that I use on Strats due to their warmer tone, I find nickel plated too harsh, especially on the bridge pickup.
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Anyways, I rewired my Strat three times, and broke the high E, twice. I wasn't able to replace it with my pure nickel, so I had to resort to an old Jerry rig to reduce the treble.


Uh, the only strings that are nickel plated steel or pure nickel are the wound strings. The three plain strings are nothing but steel.

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Post subject: Re: Reducing the high E strings bite
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:57 am
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bluesky636 wrote:
windwalker9649 wrote:
..... I had to use nickel plated steel strings instead of my normal pure nickel that I use on Strats due to their warmer tone, I find nickel plated too harsh, especially on the bridge pickup.
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Anyways, I rewired my Strat three times, and broke the high E, twice. I wasn't able to replace it with my pure nickel, so I had to resort to an old Jerry rig to reduce the treble.


Uh, the only strings that are nickel plated steel or pure nickel are the wound strings. The three plain strings are nothing but steel.


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Post subject: Re: Reducing the high E strings bite
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:47 pm
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bluesky636 wrote:
windwalker9649 wrote:
..... I had to use nickel plated steel strings instead of my normal pure nickel that I use on Strats due to their warmer tone, I find nickel plated too harsh, especially on the bridge pickup.
.........

Anyways, I rewired my Strat three times, and broke the high E, twice. I wasn't able to replace it with my pure nickel, so I had to resort to an old Jerry rig to reduce the treble.


Uh, the only strings that are nickel plated steel or pure nickel are the wound strings. The three plain strings are nothing but steel.


+2

I had to go back and read that first post again to make sure I understood what was being said. There definitely seems to be a mis-conception there that the plain strings are something other than just plain Steel (Which of course they are).

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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:00 pm
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windwalker9649 wrote:
it also lessens the harsh bite of the high e.


How does the rubber tubing make any difference to the tone of the string if the string is still in contact with the saddle when it comes over the top. The only part the tubing covers is where the string passes through the saddle.

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Post subject: Re: Reducing the high E strings bite
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:42 am
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Voodoo Blues wrote:
windwalker9649 wrote:
it also lessens the harsh bite of the high e.


How does the rubber tubing make any difference to the tone of the string if the string is still in contact with the saddle when it comes over the top. The only part the tubing covers is where the string passes through the saddle.


The tubing extends to where it sits between the string, and the top of the saddle. Its not exactly like howv the guy did it fit SRV, he did it for a different reason.

Yes, the plain strings in a set of pure nickel is steel, but its treated differently in regards to the plating and other things they do when they make them. So the plain settings in the pure nickel sets still soundwarmer than a ones from a plated nickel set.


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Post subject: Re: Reducing the high E strings bite
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:48 pm
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windwalker9649 wrote:
Yes, the plain strings in a set of pure nickel is steel, but its treated differently in regards to the plating and other things they do when they make them. So the plain settings in the pure nickel sets still soundwarmer than a ones from a plated nickel set.


I'm sure that a lot of us here would love to know where you obtained this "information".

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