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Post subject: Re: John Mayer Sig Vs SRV sig
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:39 pm
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coreymorash wrote:
I want some pro's , cons about these, and what people is the better of the two... let me hear the reviews......


Choosing an instrument is like chosing a mate. One person's dog is another person's darling. It's a very personal choice. But the guitar should be pristine.

The first JM I auditioned had poorly dressed frets. I called Scottsdale and expressed my disappointment. The guitar manager at the store said that his tech could dress those frets down. I looked at him hard and said:
"Send it back to Fender and tell them to give you something they can be proud of....out of the box and perfect....hell, it's an Artist Series instrument!!!. I've played Squiers in better condition. "


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Post subject: Re: John Mayer Sig Vs SRV sig
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:34 pm
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zzdoc wrote:

Choosing an instrument is like chosing a mate. One person's dog is another person's darling. It's a very personal choice. But the guitar should be pristine.

The first JM I auditioned had poorly dressed frets. I called Scottsdale and expressed my disappointment. The guitar manager at the store said that his tech could dress those frets down. I looked at him hard and said:
"Send it back to Fender and tell them to give you something they can be proud of....out of the box and perfect....hell, it's an Artist Series instrument!!!. I've played Squiers in better condition. "



I encountered this on one of the 6 Mayer strats I've tried out. I ran across one at Guitar Center one day that basically played like crap. Which is why you always want to play an instrument before you get it.

The same can be said for any guitar. I've played a few SRV's and some played nicer than the others.


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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:55 am
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hmmm, i gues i just have to try the two and see which suits me if either of the even doo.....i'll have to try the srv agian.......


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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:23 pm
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personally, I cant play guitar..but SRV rocks so that is definately the one to buy..no question.. :twisted:


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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:31 pm
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sfitch29 wrote:
John Mayer Strat Vs. Stevie Ray Vaughan Strat

I own both of these instruments, and I can't claim either one to be "better"

To start off - the SRV has a pau ferro fretboard, and the Mayer has an African rosewood board. The tone that the African rosewood (on the Mayer strat) gives off can be described a very smooth - but growly (at times). The tone of the pau ferro (on the SRV strat) is a bit more compact, and while maintaining the growl known from rosewood boards, it holds a certain bit of jangle that can be easily tied to a late fifties maple cap neck/fretboard. Both have the same size frets, so about the same action and playability can be achieved on both instruments. The back contour on the SRV strat can best be described as an uneven "U" shape. Similarly, the back contour on the Mayer strat is a large "C" shape, more of a thick chunk in your palm than the '62 vintage strat. If you have larger hands (as I have observed John Mayer does) the Mayer strat will be better suited for you. If you prefer the larger oval "U" (that I find better for big bends) than the SRV strat is for you.

As far as tone goes it's a VERY hard call. The SRV strat has those custom shop Texas Special pickups loaded from the factory. Those pickups are great if you don't mind a ton of hum. I have found them to be increasingly annoying when playing live under lighting, but if you have a noise gate device for your rig, it won't matter. The tone from the SRV strat like mentioned earlier (as in the description of the neck wood) is a dark growling tone, but with a certain compactness found in some maple cap neck/boards. The SRV strat is great for that HOT over wound tone. The Mayer strat has a very similar growl, but I find the pickups to be better suited for the woods of the instrument. The pickups are very well balanced, and I can get excellent note clarity within chords, or even in a muddy distorted setup. The Mayer strat just sounds like a player, whereas the SRV strat's pickups and tone do take some getting used to.

The SRV strat has a left handed tremolo which (to me) feels awkward when the need to use it arises. The minor differences between the two cosmetically (besides the tremolo) are gold hardware on SRV strat, and a thick satin finish on the Mayer neck, and a thin gloss on the SRV neck. Personally, I prefer the thin gloss, but again, it's all personal preference when it comes down to that stuff.

Bottom line: go to the music store near you, play both of them through the same amp-preferably one very similar to what you have at home, or in the studio-and just A/B the two guitars. Remember it's not all about how they sound, but how they play. The SRV guitar only comes in the one finish though, so keep that in mind so you know if you can live with it or not.



Listening to SRV and those current players whom he inspired , you can certainly hear his influence in their tone, just as one can hear echoes of Albert King in SRV's work.

Howver, there's a tremendous amount of Cesar Diaz in the SRV tone. Diaz was the amp guru who worked with SRV in his quest for the hold grail of tone. What you get in the end is a one of a kind guitar virtuoso playing a
maverick Stratocaster with a very special setup, through a carefully and patiently crafted electronic Garden of Eden, not to mention the studio setup that was used for a particular session. No guitar off the salesroom wall is going to give any of us that.

Time and again, I have heard the old greats counsel to take inspiration, but play yourself.

Find your own "lost chord".


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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:29 am
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there is only one way to get his tone...Two Rock John Mayer sig cabinet. By the way, the JM strat is modeled after his SRV signature. It came with oddly wound Texas pickups which is how he got the "dipper" pickups. When he is on stage, he uses one of his 10 John Cruz Masterbuilts (that do not have dipper pickups) or his 2 Jimi tribute strats, recently a SRV Fender Montreux, ES 335, or usually 2 of his John Cruz MASTERBUILT John Mayer models.

Just in case you were wondering. =)


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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:36 am
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[img][img]http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa243/sealoblues/new1.jpg[/img]
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These are 2 of the ones he using now, the white one modeled off of Charley, one of SRV's strats


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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:50 am
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On another note, sealoblues1, you seem to have a LOT of close up pictures of John's number 1. Got any more? :D


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[img][img]http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa243/sealoblues/60OlympicWhiteStrathardtailartis-1.jpg[/img]
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[img][img]http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa243/sealoblues/john-mayer-black-strat.jpg[/img][/img]


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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:02 am
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[img][img]http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa243/sealoblues/P7140030.jpg[/img]

Charley strat he recently started using....not the replica from Charleys, but a limited run Fender did....[/img]


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[img][img]http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa243/sealoblues/IMG_0312.jpg[/img][/img]


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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:09 am
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Cool pics... my fix is satisfied. 8)


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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:12 am
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I got tons of pics of him and tons of his guitars...any more you need lemme know


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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:09 pm
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u got tons of pics but u got any vids of him using his sig or the srv??


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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:22 pm
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welll, he has the SRV that he used to play...he also owns the SRV tribute.

But, his number one there is tons of videos of it...heres one.

here is a decent one
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9HHKMlnOJpE& ... ed&search=


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