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Post subject: John Mayer Sig Vs SRV sig
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:07 am
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I want some pro's , cons about these, and what people is the better of the two... let me hear the reviews......


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the john mayer and srv strats have a similar feel in my personal experiance with the mayer being more desirable for me (i dont want SRV carved into my pick gaurd do u) and i like the mayer strats tone a bit more it can get really twangy and really deep like the srv can but u can get into that clapton kinda thing with a little fiddeling so i like the john mayer myself


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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:44 pm
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I have played both but own neither, so my opinion is only valid to a certain extent.

The Mayer seems more versatile, but the SRV's tone is just sooo so rich. With the Mayer you can get close to the SRV sound, and it can achieve a variety of other sounds as well. The SRV will give you that legit SRV sound, but isn't as versatile with getting other sounds for different types of music.

One plus about the Mayer model is the Big Dipper pickups. You can't get them outside of finding a loaded Mayer pickguard on ebay, or just buying the Mayer sig. I love its pickups. The neck is comfy. The SRV neck will not suit all players. It's pretty big. It's easier to get used to than I thought, but my hands also aren't too small. Once again, in terms of the neck, I'd say the Mayer is more versatile. But the SRV neck feels lovely when bending.

It's all kind of a personal preference thing. What types of music do you play? I'd say to play both of them and just decide from there.

The verdict: Mayer strat is versatile with some cool pickups. The SRV is, well.... the SRV. I don't really have an opinion as to which is better.


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John Mayer Strat Vs. Stevie Ray Vaughan Strat

I own both of these instruments, and I can't claim either one to be "better"

To start off - the SRV has a pau ferro fretboard, and the Mayer has an African rosewood board. The tone that the African rosewood (on the Mayer strat) gives off can be described a very smooth - but growly (at times). The tone of the pau ferro (on the SRV strat) is a bit more compact, and while maintaining the growl known from rosewood boards, it holds a certain bit of jangle that can be easily tied to a late fifties maple cap neck/fretboard. Both have the same size frets, so about the same action and playability can be achieved on both instruments. The back contour on the SRV strat can best be described as an uneven "U" shape. Similarly, the back contour on the Mayer strat is a large "C" shape, more of a thick chunk in your palm than the '62 vintage strat. If you have larger hands (as I have observed John Mayer does) the Mayer strat will be better suited for you. If you prefer the larger oval "U" (that I find better for big bends) than the SRV strat is for you.

As far as tone goes it's a VERY hard call. The SRV strat has those custom shop Texas Special pickups loaded from the factory. Those pickups are great if you don't mind a ton of hum. I have found them to be increasingly annoying when playing live under lighting, but if you have a noise gate device for your rig, it won't matter. The tone from the SRV strat like mentioned earlier (as in the description of the neck wood) is a dark growling tone, but with a certain compactness found in some maple cap neck/boards. The SRV strat is great for that HOT over wound tone. The Mayer strat has a very similar growl, but I find the pickups to be better suited for the woods of the instrument. The pickups are very well balanced, and I can get excellent note clarity within chords, or even in a muddy distorted setup. The Mayer strat just sounds like a player, whereas the SRV strat's pickups and tone do take some getting used to.

The SRV strat has a left handed tremolo which (to me) feels awkward when the need to use it arises. The minor differences between the two cosmetically (besides the tremolo) are gold hardware on SRV strat, and a thick satin finish on the Mayer neck, and a thin gloss on the SRV neck. Personally, I prefer the thin gloss, but again, it's all personal preference when it comes down to that stuff.

Bottom line: go to the music store near you, play both of them through the same amp-preferably one very similar to what you have at home, or in the studio-and just A/B the two guitars. Remember it's not all about how they sound, but how they play. The SRV guitar only comes in the one finish though, so keep that in mind so you know if you can live with it or not.


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sfitch29 wrote:
John Mayer Strat Vs. Stevie Ray Vaughan Strat

I own both of these instruments, and I can't claim either one to be "better"

To start off - the SRV has a pau ferro fretboard, and the Mayer has an African rosewood board. The tone that the African rosewood (on the Mayer strat) gives off can be described a very smooth - but growly (at times). The tone of the pau ferro (on the SRV strat) is a bit more compact, and while maintaining the growl known from rosewood boards, it holds a certain bit of jangle that can be easily tied to a late fifties maple cap neck/fretboard. Both have the same size frets, so about the same action and playability can be achieved on both instruments. The back contour on the SRV strat can best be described as an uneven "U" shape. Similarly, the back contour on the Mayer strat is a large "C" shape, more of a thick chunk in your palm than the '62 vintage strat. If you have larger hands (as I have observed John Mayer does) the Mayer strat will be better suited for you. If you prefer the larger oval "U" (that I find better for big bends) than the SRV strat is for you.

As far as tone goes it's a VERY hard call. The SRV strat has those custom shop Texas Special pickups loaded from the factory. Those pickups are great if you don't mind a ton of hum. I have found them to be increasingly annoying when playing live under lighting, but if you have a noise gate device for your rig, it won't matter. The tone from the SRV strat like mentioned earlier (as in the description of the neck wood) is a dark growling tone, but with a certain compactness found in some maple cap neck/boards. The SRV strat is great for that HOT over wound tone. The Mayer strat has a very similar growl, but I find the pickups to be better suited for the woods of the instrument. The pickups are very well balanced, and I can get excellent note clarity within chords, or even in a muddy distorted setup. The Mayer strat just sounds like a player, whereas the SRV strat's pickups and tone do take some getting used to.

The SRV strat has a left handed tremolo which (to me) feels awkward when the need to use it arises. The minor differences between the two cosmetically (besides the tremolo) are gold hardware on SRV strat, and a thick satin finish on the Mayer neck, and a thin gloss on the SRV neck. Personally, I prefer the thin gloss, but again, it's all personal preference when it comes down to that stuff.

Bottom line: go to the music store near you, play both of them through the same amp-preferably one very similar to what you have at home, or in the studio-and just A/B the two guitars. Remember it's not all about how they sound, but how they play. The SRV guitar only comes in the one finish though, so keep that in mind so you know if you can live with it or not.

Nicely done! Personally I would opt for the Mayer.


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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:57 am
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thanks alot, i was leaning towards the srv now i'm gonna try both to see wat happens....

Also, you can get used to both necks right? I have medium sized hands not big, not small...i use a C-shaped neck now, i find it very comfortable, but i love the SRV, but could it damage my playing in the long run.....make me not as good as i could be, if i picked up the srv?


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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:12 pm
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Once again, I don't own it. But it seems to me like the faster you get on the baseball bat sized neck on the SRV, your hands will stretch out and get used to moving like that, and when you move onto a more form-fitting neck, it will be a walk in the park.


BUT my idea could be totally off.


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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:41 pm
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I'd definately go with the John Mayer.
The SRV is nice, but I'm big on versatility.
The Mayer has amazing pickups that are good for damn near anything,
but the texas pickups kinda limit you a bit.


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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:45 pm
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coreymorash wrote:
thanks alot, i was leaning towards the srv now i'm gonna try both to see wat happens....

Also, you can get used to both necks right? I have medium sized hands not big, not small...i use a C-shaped neck now, i find it very comfortable, but i love the SRV, but could it damage my playing in the long run.....make me not as good as i could be, if i picked up the srv?



The necks that Fender puts on their standard, American and American Deluxe (not "V" neck) are very thin, and to my hands uncomfortable. I have always felt that the thicker necks fender offers are in the "long run" more comfortable. On my (first artist series purchase) Clapton strat it has a "soft V" neck, and even that feels too thin. I was blown away when I purchased the Eric Johnson strat, it seemed like they finally got it right - It's hard for me to play the "standard thin" profile necks anymore. What sold me on both of the instruments (Mayer and SRV strats) was aside from the tone, the neck contours. Both of these instruments will give you much joy - and please don't be sold on the notion that the back contour will make you a better or worse player. That is up to you - and although a neck may be uncomfortable at first; chances are, you will be able to adjust. Just go with what your hands and ears like the most. (and don't forget your eyes too!!)


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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:15 pm
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anyone else got any points or opinions about the two guitars.......also what would be a good amp for either of these guitars to get a (Mayerish) tone.


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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:28 am
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also if anyone has vids or audio files of them playing it like on youtube or anything, i'd like to see em....

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I'm considering a John Mayer or 62 Reissue as my next axe- I prefer the Mayer slightly over the SRV. Both guitars play great and I love the feel of both instruments, although I like the satin finish on the back of the neck on the Mayer. The problem I have with the SRV Strat is that it seems like a lot of guitarists (Especially Strat players) since SRV have tried chasing after his tone- I don't want to be another person trying to sound like SRV... and that guitar HAS the SRV tone to it. I find it interesting that the Big Dipper pickups are supposed to have a scooped midrange- which is exactly opposite to the Texas Specials, and if I remember correctly, Mayer started out playing an SRV Strat...


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Post subject: Sig Strats SRV vs JM Strat....
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:54 pm
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ive played both and own one.
First was the JM strat i tested it was nice but well very much based around the SRV strat im thinking because they had a similar feel, it was a nice guitar no doubt playing was impressive i thought but not to much more than a 62 RI nicer pickups thou...

Second i played then later brought... was the SRV Strat, i knew from the moment i picked the guitar up and nested it in my arms it was the rite one, everything felt right to me perfect neck feel, nice weight, nice body, and the pickup tones were amazing and unlike others have said i found them very versatile, if there was one thing i could change on my strat, it would be to have a Brazilian Rosewood Fretboard on it, instead of the pao ferro... i dont know why but i found the Brazilian Was more appealing to the eye and warmer sounding when i played it last. but that would be about it all in all i give the srv about 10/10 :) but each guitar suits sum1 different its like a pair of shoes really... gotta try before you buy... :)

But SRV for me thanks very much :)
sounds amazing on my 59' bassman ltd :D


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Post subject: Nice amp
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:59 pm
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Yeah dude if ur lookin for a beauty of an amp for many amazing tones,
go try a 59' bassman, mayer also uses marshalls with howard dumble heads so dont worry about then unless ur billgates or sumthin.. hahan eways nah and if u want sumthing cheaper that also sounds awsome, try a blues junior, great bang for bucks that little amp has brilliant overtones and alround well damn nice amps, neways good luck with your goals dude!


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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:59 pm
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I wouldn´t go for any of them, because I don´t like signature guitars (having signatures of people on the headstocks is not for me)...

but if I had to choose.. the Mayer suits me better.. it has exactly the specs I like in a strat.. and the "big dipper" pickups are amazing..

I wished Fender would have the dippers for sale outside the Mayer guitar :cry:


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