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Post subject: Re: roasted maple neck
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:41 am
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Alright, alright. I see that I stirred up a hornet's nest with that comment. Look at it this way. Wouldn't it have been poetic justice for a silicon valley billionaire to buy an Ibanez for a mil or so instead of a '68 Strat? They're all the same...Vanderbilt could brag about owning Napoleon's chess set, and now Paul Allen brags about owning Hendrix's Strat.


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Post subject: Re: roasted maple neck
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:59 am
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dean111music wrote:
do you know what the tone difference is between roasted and normal maple?


Roasted neck does nothing but harden the maple a little further and deepen the color. It gives it a little bit of a rosewood tone. Gibson's new melody maker series has that Torrid/roasted maple fretboards that looks as if it was made of rosewood. It doesn't look or feel like maple. Expect a roasted neck to sound more like mohagany and less like maple.

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Post subject: Re: roasted maple neck
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:07 am
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DetroitBlues wrote:
dean111music wrote:
do you know what the tone difference is between roasted and normal maple?


Roasted neck does nothing but harden the maple a little further and deepen the color. It gives it a little bit of a rosewood tone. Gibson's new melody maker series has that Torrid/roasted maple fretboards that looks as if it was made of rosewood. It doesn't look or feel like maple. Expect a roasted neck to sound more like mohagany and less like maple.


Sorry, I don't agree. Playing maple and roasted maple Petrucci sigs back-to-back revealed no difference in tone and maybe a slight glassy ebony FEEL to the roasted that might've been totally psychological. In no way did the roasted approach a mahogany neck/rosewood fretboard tone, which is much more "round" compared to maple. (In addition to my all maple AmDeluxe Strat and a maple Jackson Dinky, I have a couple mahogany/rosewood axes. I prefer maple, but play rosewood regularly.)

And remember, the roasted/burnt/vulcanized claim isn't about a different tone from maple, it is about STABILITY. If true -- and time will tell -- this matters. Or otherwise Warmoth wouldn't be able to sell necks at a premium with the truss adjustment on the side.


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Post subject: Re: roasted maple neck
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:08 pm
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Burke-CLT wrote:
DetroitBlues wrote:
dean111music wrote:
do you know what the tone difference is between roasted and normal maple?


Roasted neck does nothing but harden the maple a little further and deepen the color. It gives it a little bit of a rosewood tone. Gibson's new melody maker series has that Torrid/roasted maple fretboards that looks as if it was made of rosewood. It doesn't look or feel like maple. Expect a roasted neck to sound more like mohagany and less like maple.


Sorry, I don't agree. Playing maple and roasted maple Petrucci sigs back-to-back revealed no difference in tone and maybe a slight glassy ebony FEEL to the roasted that might've been totally psychological. In no way did the roasted approach a mahogany neck/rosewood fretboard tone, which is much more "round" compared to maple. (In addition to my all maple AmDeluxe Strat and a maple Jackson Dinky, I have a couple mahogany/rosewood axes. I prefer maple, but play rosewood regularly.)

And remember, the roasted/burnt/vulcanized claim isn't about a different tone from maple, it is about STABILITY. If true -- and time will tell -- this matters. Or otherwise Warmoth wouldn't be able to sell necks at a premium with the truss adjustment on the side.


That's why I said more like rosewood than maple, but I didn't say the same as rosewood. And I only speak of the Gibson Melody Maker series that has a mohagany neck.

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Post subject: Re: roasted maple neck
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:11 pm
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Even if it is only a stability issue, there would at least be improved sustain with a more stable neck. Tone/sound/sustain, whatever one likes to call it, the difference/improvement would still be apparent IMO. :idea:

How many can tell the difference in sound between an aluminum and wooden bat? (same baseball of course). And, I'll bet that a solid aluminum bat would still sound different that a wooden bat. :idea:

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Post subject: Re: roasted maple neck
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:21 pm
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I like roasted duck!


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Post subject: Re: roasted maple neck
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:46 pm
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Yes, duck has less "quack" when roasted. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: roasted maple neck
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:55 pm
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Everybody knows that the color of the wood makes the guitar sounds different!

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Post subject: Re: roasted maple neck
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:10 pm
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Guthrie Govan's Suhr guitar has a roasted maple neck. He said himself that they are very well adaptable to different environments. They won't warp as easy. They are put into an oven with the oxygen taken out, then "roasted".


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Post subject: Re: roasted maple neck
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:04 pm
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I read about Gibson doing something like this. I assumed they were doing it because of wood problems. Lack of rosewood?

I can't believe this "neck tone" argument keeps happening. Y'all are dumber than I am. :mrgreen:


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Post subject: Re: roasted maple neck
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:19 am
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Some info on what the guitar makers try to do can be found here:
http://www.landola.fi/ (> click the thermo wood).

The process is still relatively new, and the quest for that "Stradivari in a week" still continues. The wood becomes darker, lighter, more brittle but also in some cases more splintering and almost fragile.


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