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Post subject: ringing overtone
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:03 am
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I just finished setting up my guitar and now I am noticing a ringing overtone when I play the treble strings. I hear this Plugged and unplugged.
If I pluck just one of the strings I cannot hear it but if pluck either the e and b together or the b and g or the g and e I get the ringing overtone sound. So it only is reproducible when playing two or more of the strings together. I know very weird.
First thing I tried was lowering the pickups but this did not help.
I tried muting the tem springs but that did not help either. I have no idea where the sound is coming from.

Anyone have any advice?


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Post subject: Re: ringing overtone
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:04 am
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ics1974 wrote:
I just finished setting up my guitar and now I am noticing a ringing overtone when I play the treble strings. I hear this Plugged and unplugged.
If I pluck just one of the strings I cannot hear it but if pluck either the e and b together or the b and g or the g and e I get the ringing overtone sound. So it only is reproducible when playing two or more of the strings together. I know very weird.
First thing I tried was lowering the pickups but this did not help.
I tried muting the tem springs but that did not help either. I have no idea where the sound is coming from.

Anyone have any advice?


It sounds like a string or multiple strings are not seated properly in the nut. Pluck and then push each of the affected strings down separately, bringing each closer to the headstock, immediately after where the string leaves the nut, heading out toward the machine head. If the problem goes away, it's either lack of windings, one wind under the other of the string around it's machine head post and/or the cut of the nut for that string. What is called, "sympathetic vibration" is the probable cause of the other affected strings chiming in.


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Post subject: Re: ringing overtone
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:42 am
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Martian wrote:
ics1974 wrote:
I just finished setting up my guitar and now I am noticing a ringing overtone when I play the treble strings. I hear this Plugged and unplugged.
If I pluck just one of the strings I cannot hear it but if pluck either the e and b together or the b and g or the g and e I get the ringing overtone sound. So it only is reproducible when playing two or more of the strings together. I know very weird.
First thing I tried was lowering the pickups but this did not help.
I tried muting the tem springs but that did not help either. I have no idea where the sound is coming from.

Anyone have any advice?


It sounds like a string or multiple strings are not seated properly in the nut. Pluck and then push each of the affected strings down separately, bringing each closer to the headstock, immediately after where the string leaves the nut, heading out toward the machine head. If the problem goes away, it's either lack of windings, one wind under the other of the string around it's machine head post and/or the cut of the nut for that string. What is called, "sympathetic vibration" is the probable cause of the other affected strings chiming in.


I will try this when I get home and will let you know.
Thanks


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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:01 pm
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Well the nut is not the problem. I tried your suggestion and the issue still happened at all times. I even put a capo on 1st fret

thanks though


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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:22 am
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Well I am pretty sure the sound is coming from the bridge or saddles but I am starting to wonder if it's the type of strings I am using. They are the super bullet strings. Anyone notice a ringing overtone with these strings?


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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:54 pm
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You say "ringing overtones". Quite honestly, I think the strings would sound very bizzare if there were no overtones and just the fundamental!

At any rate, I think I know what you might be hearing. I'm actually quite amazed that I haven't seen any posts on this yet.

I've noticed that I can hear sympathetic resonance from the springs attached to the block... louder on some of my strats than others. I pulled the backplate and used some 1/4 or 3/8 round gray weather stripping from Home Depot, cut five or so lengths as long as the springs and stuffed it along side each of the springs to damp the vibrations.

Give it a try and let me know if solved your problem.


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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:19 am
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Strataholic wrote:
You say "ringing overtones". Quite honestly, I think the strings would sound very bizzare if there were no overtones and just the fundamental!

At any rate, I think I know what you might be hearing. I'm actually quite amazed that I haven't seen any posts on this yet.

I've noticed that I can hear sympathetic resonance from the springs attached to the block... louder on some of my strats than others. I pulled the backplate and used some 1/4 or 3/8 round gray weather stripping from Home Depot, cut five or so lengths as long as the springs and stuffed it along side each of the springs to damp the vibrations.

Give it a try and let me know if solved your problem.


Hey Strataholic,

I tried stuffing toilet paper all around the springs to completly fill the cavity but it did not help at all.

It's soo hard to hear where the ringing sound is coming from but I know for sure its between the bridge and the beginning of the neck. The only way I can get the sound to go away instantly is the quickly mute the strings.

Thanks


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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:46 am
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Do you have the Microtilt feature on your guitar? If your not sure, check for a small hole in the neck plate. Perhaps something is loose in that area.

I guess if that doesn't reveal the source, you may want to pull the neck off; perhaps there is a shim or something buzzing.

Maybe you could record the sound and leave us a sound clip.


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