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Post subject: Longevity of a Maple neck
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:56 pm
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What is the longevity of a Maple neck.
How do you deal with worn grayish areas?
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Post subject: Re: Longevity of a Maple neck
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:22 pm
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There are still maple necked Strats from the 50s going strong today so the longevity must be beyond 50 years.I don't think that many people worry about the worn greyish areas as people continue playing them long after they start appearing,although I have heard that some people do get their fretboards refinished.

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Post subject: Re: Longevity of a Maple neck
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:10 pm
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i think it depends on the player. some guitars from the 50s and 60s have their original neck while others have had their replaced multiple times (jimmie vaughn has replaced the maple neck on his 60s strat about 7 times). It depends on the wear and what the guitarists want the feel to be like but maple necks have lasted for 60 years


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Post subject: Re: Longevity of a Maple neck
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:09 am
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Mine's 10 years old and it's still fine. I can't wait to see how it does.

There were dudes at my music college who used to sand off the top layer of finish so it looked more played... don't see what was wrong with just doing it by playing a lot. :P

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Post subject: Re: Longevity of a Maple neck
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:40 am
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flatpicker wrote:
What is the longevity of a Maple neck.
How do you deal with worn grayish areas?
Ronald

Hi Ronald: if your neck is showing worn through areas in the lacquer on the fingerboard then I expect it is a vintage or vintage reissue type model finished in nitrocellulose rather than polyurethane. It takes forever to wear through urethane.

It is common that when maple 'boards are refretted they get relacquered at the same time, so that deals with your issue. If you don't like the wear marks you could choose to have it relacquered with urethane rather than nitro during or prior to a refret: that would solve the issue almost forever. Alternatively, if you like nitro and/or like the wear marks then don't sweat it: it will be decades before it actually does any harm to the playability of the neck.

Also, strictly in the politest, friendliest tone, I'd further suggest that if you don't like the worn patches on your fingerboard you have a look at the length of your nails on your fretting fingers. Often it is nails rather than fingertips that do damage to fretboards - though not always. Something to double-check.

I recall that Eric Clapton's Blackie Strat was refretted and relacquered twice in its 17 year playing life. Each time it was relacquered the new lacquer effectively sealed in the previous dirty wear marks. When Fender came to do their scratch-for-scratch copy of Blackie they had to find a way of simulating that wear-on-lacquer-on-wear-on-lacquer effect. A very clever thing to accomplish - if rather weird, in my meaningless opinion.

Far as the longevity of the neck itself is concerned: well, maple is a very hard, durable wood. Not only are there 60 year old Strats that are still perfectly playable, other stringed instruments such as viols and violins are still going strong after two, three and four centuries. (Though very few 18th century or older violins have their original necks - but that is not to do with wear.)

Anyway, Ronald. Care to tell us more about this Strat of yours? Just out of interest.

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Post subject: Re: Longevity of a Maple neck
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:20 pm
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If you have a nitro finish on the fretboard, such as a REAL vintage strat, or a reissue, then it will wear between frets quickly with heavy playing. It just looks worn out, but it is not! If you have a modern strat with a poly finish, you will have to work hard at wearing through it with just your fingers! ;) I have a 1974 strat that isn't even CLOSE to wearing through the poly on the fretboard!!!!!


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Post subject: Re: Longevity of a Maple neck
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:54 pm
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Ceri wrote:
flatpicker wrote:
What is the longevity of a Maple neck.
How do you deal with worn grayish areas?
Ronald

Hi Ronald: if your neck is showing worn through areas in the lacquer on the fingerboard then I expect it is a vintage or vintage reissue type model finished in nitrocellulose rather than polyurethane. It takes forever to wear through urethane.

It is common that when maple 'boards are refretted they get relacquered at the same time, so that deals with your issue. If you don't like the wear marks you could choose to have it relacquered with urethane rather than nitro during or prior to a refret: that would solve the issue almost forever. Alternatively, if you like nitro and/or like the wear marks then don't sweat it: it will be decades before it actually does any harm to the playability of the neck.
In Paul Balmer's "The Stratocaster Handbook", his wear through the finish on his maple neck, he said was attributed to actually the poly coating, then his luthier friend, John Diggins took the poly off and resprayed with nitro. He said the nitro is harder than the poly. Just what I read.

Also, strictly in the politest, friendliest tone, I'd further suggest that if you don't like the worn patches on your fingerboard you have a look at the length of your nails on your fretting fingers. Often it is nails rather than fingertips that do damage to fretboards - though not always. Something to double-check.

I recall that Eric Clapton's Blackie Strat was refretted and relacquered twice in its 17 year playing life. Each time it was relacquered the new lacquer effectively sealed in the previous dirty wear marks. When Fender came to do their scratch-for-scratch copy of Blackie they had to find a way of simulating that wear-on-lacquer-on-wear-on-lacquer effect. A very clever thing to accomplish - if rather weird, in my meaningless opinion.

Far as the longevity of the neck itself is concerned: well, maple is a very hard, durable wood. Not only are there 60 year old Strats that are still perfectly playable, other stringed instruments such as viols and violins are still going strong after two, three and four centuries. (Though very few 18th century or older violins have their original necks - but that is not to do with wear.)

Anyway, Ronald. Care to tell us more about this Strat of yours? Just out of interest.

Cheers - C

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