Custom hand wound pickups for Strats.

frostmetallic · **Joined:** Mon May 30, 2011 6:51 am **Posts:** 24

Hey guys! I was just wandering if any of you here has any experience buying custom handwound pickups from Klien pickups,Dave Stephens,Riogrande,Dimarzio, or any others. How would you ask the maker to make the pickup/pickups to your liking before actually purchasing them? Is it the DC resistance? or material?Tell them the genre of what type of songs you play or something like that??? And also after using it for a long time, do you have to actually rewound it???(Underwound pickups or Overwound pickups) Whats the diff?? And also tell me about the sound. Most R&B and blues rock artist uses custom hand wound pickups, I'm interested in buying and making my own too. Please share your feedbacks thanks in advance!!!

Ceri · **Posted:** Tue May 31, 2011 9:27 am

Hi frostmetallic: I have Bare Knuckle Pickups that were hand-wound to order. They're amongst my favorites of all time - though who knows if that's just my ears trying to justify the price?

Cheers - C

nikininja · **Posted:** Tue May 31, 2011 9:31 am

Ceri wrote:

Hi frostmetallic: I have Bare Knuckle Pickups that were hand-wound to order. They're amongst my favorites of all time - though who knows if that's just my ears trying to justify the price?

Cheers - C

Nah you like the sound of my BK Sultans too. You didn't pay for them.

I'll stick with Bill Lawrence's advice when it comes to pickups. Their a circuit, the materials used are nowhere near as important as the design and good manufacture of the circuit.

Ceri · **Posted:** Tue May 31, 2011 9:39 am

nikininja wrote:

Ceri wrote:

Hi frostmetallic: I have Bare Knuckle Pickups that were hand-wound to order. They're amongst my favorites of all time - though who knows if that's just my ears trying to justify the price?

Nah you like the sound of my BK Sultans too. You didn't pay for them.

Though maybe my ears are trying to justify the price of your Sultans too? Because sure as eggs is eggs your Sultans cost the same as my Sultans - and they weren't cheap!

Still, my ears believe it and therefore so does my wallet.

Cheers - C

PS And since privately I'd place a lot more faith in your ears than mine, if yours say they're good then they're good!

frostmetallic · **Joined:** Mon May 30, 2011 6:51 am **Posts:** 24

Ceri wrote:

nikininja wrote:

Ceri wrote:

Hi frostmetallic: I have Bare Knuckle Pickups that were hand-wound to order. They're amongst my favorites of all time - though who knows if that's just my ears trying to justify the price?

Nah you like the sound of my BK Sultans too. You didn't pay for them.

Though maybe my ears are trying to justify the price of your Sultans too? Because sure as eggs is eggs your Sultans cost the same as my Sultans - and they weren't cheap!

Still, my ears believe it and therefore so does my wallet.

Cheers - C

PS And since privately I'd place a lot more faith in your ears than mine, if yours say they're good then they're good!

Do you have to actually rewound the pickups as in send for coil winding after a long time of usage? I heard that the tone of the sound from the pickup will not be as original as you bought from the first place. I hope i can find a custom pickup which wouldnt require any rewinding.

Ceri · **Posted:** Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:57 am

frostmetallic wrote:

Do you have to actually rewound the pickups as in send for coil winding after a long time of usage? I heard that the tone of the sound from the pickup will not be as original as you bought from the first place. I hope i can find a custom pickup which wouldnt require any rewinding.

Hi again frostmetallic: I'm a little confused here - why would hand-wound pickups need to be re-wound?

Cheers - C

frostmetallic · **Joined:** Mon May 30, 2011 6:51 am **Posts:** 24

Ceri wrote:

frostmetallic wrote:

Do you have to actually rewound the pickups as in send for coil winding after a long time of usage? I heard that the tone of the sound from the pickup will not be as original as you bought from the first place. I hope i can find a custom pickup which wouldnt require any rewinding.

Hi again frostmetallic: I'm a little confused here - why would hand-wound pickups need to be re-wound?

Cheers - C

It said that ("I'm also really not so sure about this") in forums that people says that their coil wiring in the pickups tend to get loosen after a long time and the tone of the sound from the pickups will not be as Good,punchier,brighter depending on what the pickup the person uses when the person bought it at the first place.. I'm also eager to find out about this whether it is true or not. (Hand wound pickups that is)

Cheers.

Ceri · **Posted:** Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:33 am

frostmetallic wrote:

It said that ("I'm also really not so sure about this") in forums that people says that their coil wiring in the pickups tend to get loosen after a long time and the tone of the sound from the pickups will not be as Good,punchier,brighter depending on what the pickup the person uses when the person bought it at the first place.. I'm also eager to find out about this whether it is true or not.

Hi once again frostmetallic: with the deepest respect to these other forums, someone somewhere is talking sheer twaddle.

When a pickup is described as "hand-wound" all it really means is that the coil wire is fed onto the bobbin as it spins on the winding machine by a human hand instead of an automated guide. Which means that it is not wound so regularly and therefore is "scatter-wound", to which some people attach vast mystical sonic importance.

It's something extra to charge the customer for, and it may or may not make a small but crucial difference to the sound of the finished pickup, depending how your ears feel on the subject.

However, there is no reason in the slightest why anything should ever go wrong with either a hand or machine wound pickup during its entire operating life, unless there is some other kind of fault in its manufacture.

If you have your eye (or ear) on some hand-wound pickups then buy them without worry. Far as durability is concerned, at any rate.

Cheers - C

nikininja · **Posted:** Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:54 am

The tale of the BK pickups becoming less punchy over time is a nonsense perpetuated by a graciously unnamed pickup maker. Being jealous of Tim Mills seemingly overnight success.
It was in Guitarist magazine circa 2006 (when I last bought one).
Yeah they soften slightly over time, as all hand wound pickups do. Regardless of who makes them. Any handwound pickup suffers varying tension during the winding process. It's nothing as bad as said pickup maker made it out to be. Clarity and response haven't suffered at all on mine. If anything clarity has risen as the pickup settled in.
To call the sound better or worse is a matter of opinion. Nothing more. Read some of insane tripe written on internet forums and then re-evaluate forum opinions written by people with no first hand experience of the product. The majority of internet opinion comes to nothing more than something akin to Chinese whispers.

adey · **Posted:** Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:39 pm

Have a look at one man band operation called Shed Pickups, especially if you're in the UK. He's developing a great reputation for making pickups to order, restoring old pickups, relic'd pickups etc. You tell him what you want and he does it basically..

Single coils, soapbars and humbuckers..

http://www.shedpickups.com

frostmetallic · **Joined:** Mon May 30, 2011 6:51 am **Posts:** 24

Thanks guys for your feedbacks!!! Another question, which custom handwound pickups should i buy from? There too many too choose from? Suggestions of the best?

Ceri · **Posted:** Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:29 am

frostmetallic wrote:

Thanks guys for your feedbacks!!! Another question, which custom handwound pickups should i buy from? There too many too choose from? Suggestions of the best?

Where (approximately) do you live?

Cheers - C

frostmetallic · **Joined:** Mon May 30, 2011 6:51 am **Posts:** 24

Ceri wrote:

frostmetallic wrote:

Thanks guys for your feedbacks!!! Another question, which custom handwound pickups should i buy from? There too many too choose from? Suggestions of the best?

Where do you live? (Approximately.)

Cheers - C

I live in Asia, a small dot in the world wide map called singapore.

frostmetallic · **Joined:** Mon May 30, 2011 6:51 am **Posts:** 24

Ceri wrote:

frostmetallic wrote:

Thanks guys for your feedbacks!!! Another question, which custom handwound pickups should i buy from? There too many too choose from? Suggestions of the best?

Where (approximately) do you live?

Cheers - C

But however still, I wont mind for the price of shipping, The tone that matters...

Ceri · **Posted:** Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:00 am

frostmetallic wrote:

I live in Asia, a small dot in the world wide map called singapore.

But however still, I wont mind for the price of shipping, The tone that matters...

Well then I bet there are some hand-makers of pickups in your part of the world - but I don't know who they are. Got a feeling there's a good guy in Australia, but I can't seem to recall the name right this second.

If it is of use some respected makers in my country - the UK - include:

Bare Knuckle Pickups - http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/

Wizard Pickups - http://www.wizardpickups.co.uk/

Shed Pickups - http://www.shedpickups.com/ (as mentioned above by adey)

And of course there are famous and highly excellent makers in America too. I leave it to the Americans to list them.

Cheers - C

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