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Post subject: Setting the Action
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:34 am
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This is the first time I am trying this but I am not sure what the real default setting for the action should be.
I have a 2007 American standard Stat.

In the manual it says.
strings 1-4 2mm +/- .4mm
strings 5-6 2.4mm +/- .4mm
http://www.fender.com/support/manuals/p ... es2003.pdf

But here it says 1.6mm for both bass and treble strings
http://www.fender.com/support/stratocaster.php

Which one is correct?


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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:03 am
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1.6mm for sure. Your preference may vary, but thats much more typical.

Mine is 1.5mm treble and 1.7mm bass.

-Eddie


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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:44 am
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Go for 1.6 and adjust the strings individually from there


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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:46 am
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eddie_bowers wrote:
1.6mm for sure. Your preference may vary, but thats much more typical.

Mine is 1.5mm treble and 1.7mm bass.

-Eddie


Thanks Eddie. What type of ruler do you use to get that persise of a measurment?


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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:15 am
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I use the String Action Gauge from Stewart-MacDonald.
It might be overkill but i'm sure glad I got it. You can use it for other things as well such as measuring your relief (using a capo and your string as a straight edge) and pickup height very accurately.

I noticed the Fender info doesn't mention using a capo at the first fret when measuring the action. I'm not sure what is standard, but the way I learned was to use a capo to eliminate the nut height as variable.

-Eddie


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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:05 am
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eddie_bowers wrote:
I use the String Action Gauge from Stewart-MacDonald.
It might be overkill but i'm sure glad I got it. You can use it for other things as well such as measuring your relief (using a capo and your string as a straight edge) and pickup height very accurately.

I noticed the Fender info doesn't mention using a capo at the first fret when measuring the action. I'm not sure what is standard, but the way I learned was to use a capo to eliminate the nut height as variable.

-Eddie


That's a neat ruler. I may have to pick that up!!
I know you have to capo the first fret when setting the truss rod but never heard of that for the action.


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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:53 pm
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At which fret are you measuring?

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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:11 am
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orvilleowner wrote:
At which fret are you measuring?

Fret 17


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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:29 am
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So I first set my truss rod to have the recommended .010" gap then tried setting the action for the 6th string.
I set it to 1.6mm and I get allot of buzz and rattle. I have to move it up to 2mm to get rid of the buzz. What am I doing wrong?


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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:43 am
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Maybe nothing.
I need to measure what my action says it's at when I don't capo the first fret, but it may be around 2mm (but that sounds high).
From the factory mine had more releif than that (.02 at 9th fret) and I haven't changed it since it plays very well.

Keep in mind that some buzzing with new strings is normal and you might not can hear it much through the amp.

OK, so that begs the question of others. How do you measure action? Do you capo the first fret or not?
I was just looking this up in the Dan Erlewine book "How To Make Your Electric Guitar Play Great!" and he says to capo the first fret (this may be where I learned that).

-Eddie


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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:17 am
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eddie_bowers wrote:
Maybe nothing.
I need to measure what my action says it's at when I don't capo the first fret, but it may be around 2mm (but that sounds high).
From the factory mine had more releif than that (.02 at 9th fret) and I haven't changed it since it plays very well.

Keep in mind that some buzzing with new strings is normal and you might not can hear it much through the amp.

OK, so that begs the question of others. How do you measure action? Do you capo the first fret or not?
I was just looking this up in the Dan Erlewine book "How To Make Your Electric Guitar Play Great!" and he says to capo the first fret (this may be where I learned that).

-Eddie


You make a great point about the capo. In the guide you first set the truss rod with the capo on then you go on to the Action but it dosn't say to keep the capo on or take it off.

Can anyone confirm if the 1.6mm (17th fret) is with or without a capo on the first fret?


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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:06 pm
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I went through this a couple of weeks ago. I found a great trick where you place a dime or nickel on the 12th fret (actual fret) under each string and adjust the height until it touches the coin. This way you keep the curve of the neck. I was having a real hard time measuring with rulers, not knowing exactly how high or low each string should be. This just made it real simple.

Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd5DbChT ... re=related[/i]


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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:16 pm
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Blackie Fan wrote:
I went through this a couple of weeks ago. I found a great trick where you place a dime or nickel on the 12th fret (actual fret) under each string and adjust the height until it touches the coin. This way you keep the curve of the neck. I was having a real hard time measuring with rulers, not knowing exactly how high or low each string should be. This just made it real simple.

Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd5DbChT ... re=related[/i]


I'll have to try this. Thanks for the link


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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:10 pm
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eddie_bowers wrote:
I use the String Action Gauge from Stewart-MacDonald.
It might be overkill but i'm sure glad I got it. You can use it for other things as well such as measuring your relief (using a capo and your string as a straight edge) and pickup height very accurately.

I noticed the Fender info doesn't mention using a capo at the first fret when measuring the action. I'm not sure what is standard, but the way I learned was to use a capo to eliminate the nut height as variable.

-Eddie


Thanks for the tip on StewMac Eddie!

Read a little further Eddie - Actually the manual does suggest a capo when setting the neck relief.


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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:14 pm
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Strataholic wrote:
eddie_bowers wrote:
I use the String Action Gauge from Stewart-MacDonald.
It might be overkill but i'm sure glad I got it. You can use it for other things as well such as measuring your relief (using a capo and your string as a straight edge) and pickup height very accurately.

I noticed the Fender info doesn't mention using a capo at the first fret when measuring the action. I'm not sure what is standard, but the way I learned was to use a capo to eliminate the nut height as variable.

-Eddie


Thanks for the tip on StewMac Eddie!

Read a little further Eddie - Actually the manual does suggest a capo when setting the neck relief.


Were asking about the capo for the string height (action) not neck releif.
Thanks though


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