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Post subject: bridge pkup repl x strat (rock hard rock) jb jr vs hot rails
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:41 pm
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Hi, I want to replace my stock bridge pkup with one humbucker single coil size (donìt want the regular size).
I usually play blues rock, hard rock and I will like a pkup with more power on power chords and more gain and sustain on solos.

I'm loking between jb jr or hot rails. Can you please give me some indication?

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Post subject: Re: bridge pkup repl x strat (rock hard rock) jb jr vs hot r
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:16 pm
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diSTRATto wrote:
Hi, I want to replace my stock bridge pkup with one humbucker single coil size (donìt want the regular size).
I usually play blues rock, hard rock and I will like a pkup with more power on power chords and more gain and sustain on solos.

I'm loking between jb jr or hot rails. Can you please give me some indication?

ty


I just came upon this thread immediately after I answered your other one. Now I know the brand.

Either one of your choices would do the job. My choice between the two would be the JB though. Your guitar will sound like you require but still sound like a Strat too. The Hot Rails may be a bit much where your Strat will wind up sounding like a bad SG.

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Post subject: Re: bridge pkup repl x strat (rock hard rock) jb jr vs hot r
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:06 pm
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Martian wrote:
diSTRATto wrote:
Hi, I want to replace my stock bridge pkup with one humbucker single coil size (donìt want the regular size).
I usually play blues rock, hard rock and I will like a pkup with more power on power chords and more gain and sustain on solos.

I'm loking between jb jr or hot rails. Can you please give me some indication?

ty


I just came upon this thread immediately after I answered your other one. Now I know the brand.

Either one of your choices would do the job. My choice between the two would be the JB though. Your guitar will sound like you require but still sound like a Strat too. The Hot Rails may be a bit much where your Strat will wind up sounding like a bad SG.



i agree martian. finally we agree on pickups lol. hey we had a 50/50 shot right. :wink:
im a huge fan of the JBjr. they have a mean single coilish type sound.
its that drag you into the alley and kick you in the nards while punching you in the throat on the way down sound, not the drag you into the alley and stab you in the ear with a ice pick sound. maybe i shouldnt apply for advertising with seymour. :(

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Post subject: Re: bridge pkup repl x strat (rock hard rock) jb jr vs hot r
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:25 am
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way cool jr wrote:
Martian wrote:
diSTRATto wrote:
Hi, I want to replace my stock bridge pkup with one humbucker single coil size (donìt want the regular size).
I usually play blues rock, hard rock and I will like a pkup with more power on power chords and more gain and sustain on solos.

I'm loking between jb jr or hot rails. Can you please give me some indication?

ty


I just came upon this thread immediately after I answered your other one. Now I know the brand.

Either one of your choices would do the job. My choice between the two would be the JB though. Your guitar will sound like you require but still sound like a Strat too. The Hot Rails may be a bit much where your Strat will wind up sounding like a bad SG.



i agree martian. finally we agree on pickups lol. hey we had a 50/50 shot right. :wink:
im a huge fan of the JBjr. they have a mean single coilish type sound.
its that drag you into the alley and kick you in the nards while punching you in the throat on the way down sound, not the drag you into the alley and stab you in the ear with a ice pick sound. maybe i shouldnt apply for advertising with seymour. :(


Why not? If it is accurate (which it is, IMO), you'd be doing a public service for millions especially because there would be truth in the advertising.

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Post subject: Re: bridge pkup repl x strat (rock hard rock) jb jr vs hot r
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:37 am
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my ad's would have to come in sheet plastic like playboys do so young readers wouldnt be>>>>> :shock: :shock:

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Post subject: Re: bridge pkup repl x strat (rock hard rock) jb jr vs hot r
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:43 am
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way cool jr wrote:
my ad's would have to come in sheet plastic like playboys do so young readers wouldnt be>>>>> :shock: :shock:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post subject: Re: bridge pkup repl x strat (rock hard rock) jb jr vs hot r
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:53 am
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martian im here all week, to learn a lot and to entertain a little. :D
with you my mission has been accomplished already sir and here it is only tue.
(um.....er.... it is tue right?)

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Post subject: Re: bridge pkup repl x strat (rock hard rock) jb jr vs hot r
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:07 am
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way cool jr wrote:
martian im here all week, to learn a lot and to entertain a little. :D
with you my mission has been accomplished already sir and here it is only tue.
(um.....er.... it is tue right?)


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Post subject: Re: bridge pkup repl x strat (rock hard rock) jb jr vs hot r
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:14 am
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ok im all good now. :D

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Post subject: Re: bridge pkup repl x strat (rock hard rock) jb jr vs hot r
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:41 pm
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you guys are so crazy... sometimes I lost my self in kind of slang... but I think to have understand eheheh...
ty very much.,..go with the jb jr :)

x martian I have update my post on diagram..
So at the end I could need this type :

2 single coil, 1 jb jr , 5way switch, 2 pot tone (1 just forn neck, the 2nd x middle&bridge)
and this is the one you post, with a push pull that splits 1 coil of the humb or change its way between parallel and series (the thing you think is better, more functional)

ty

opsss.. last thing... using the jb jr at the bridge, do you think is better 'pure' without no tone affect it? I think tone control could give the possibility of different sounds, but if you think that for more power and bright is better that the jb is totally unplugged from a tone control, please tell me.
(may be is that's because fender gives the bridge pkup not plugged at tone control :?: )


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Post subject: Re: bridge pkup repl x strat (rock hard rock) jb jr vs hot r
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:57 pm
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my opinion is that all pickups should have tone control. if it doesnt you only getting 50%
of it potential.

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Post subject: Re: bridge pkup repl x strat (rock hard rock) jb jr vs hot r
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:23 pm
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way cool jr wrote:
my opinion is that all pickups should have tone control. if it doesnt you only getting 50%
of it potential.

ty x answer


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Post subject: Re: bridge pkup repl x strat (rock hard rock) jb jr vs hot r
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:28 pm
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diSTRATto wrote:
you guys are so crazy... sometimes I lost my self in kind of slang... but I think to have understand eheheh...
ty very much.,..go with the jb jr :)

x martian I have update my post on diagram..
So at the end I could need this type :

2 single coil, 1 jb jr , 5way switch, 2 pot tone (1 just forn neck, the 2nd x middle&bridge)
and this is the one you post, with a push pull that splits 1 coil of the humb or change its way between parallel and series (the thing you think is better, more functional)

ty

opsss.. last thing... using the jb jr at the bridge, do you think is better 'pure' without no tone affect it? I think tone control could give the possibility of different sounds, but if you think that for more power and bright is better that the jb is totally unplugged from a tone control, please tell me.
(may be is that's because fender gives the bridge pkup not plugged at tone control :?: )


I answered your single coil wiring and parallel wiring question at your other post.

As to which is more functional, I have noticed with the vast majority of single size humbuckers that none of them sound as good as they can unless they are wired for full power. However, in your particular situation, if the other two pickups are single coils, you might as well wire the JB for single coil operation for the other option.

I prefer all my Strat pickups to have a tone control. The way mine is wired is so that the upper tone control works for the neck and middle pickups and the lower tone control works for the bridge pickup. This would be especially useful in your situation because JBs can get very trebly, especially if it will be wired so that one coil will be turned off.

I would also recommend you making the lower tone pot your push/pull pot as it would be the easiest to work with both physically and mentally while playing.

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Post subject: Re: bridge pkup repl x strat (rock hard rock) jb jr vs hot r
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:43 pm
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Martian wrote:
diSTRATto wrote:
you guys are so crazy... sometimes I lost my self in kind of slang... but I think to have understand eheheh...
ty very much.,..go with the jb jr :)

x martian I have update my post on diagram..
So at the end I could need this type :

2 single coil, 1 jb jr , 5way switch, 2 pot tone (1 just forn neck, the 2nd x middle&bridge)
and this is the one you post, with a push pull that splits 1 coil of the humb or change its way between parallel and series (the thing you think is better, more functional)

ty

opsss.. last thing... using the jb jr at the bridge, do you think is better 'pure' without no tone affect it? I think tone control could give the possibility of different sounds, but if you think that for more power and bright is better that the jb is totally unplugged from a tone control, please tell me.
(may be is that's because fender gives the bridge pkup not plugged at tone control :?: )


I answered your single coil wiring and parallel wiring question at your other post.

As to which is more functional, I have noticed with the vast majority of single size humbuckers that none of them sound as good as they can unless they are wired for full power. However, in your particular situation, if the other two pickups are single coils, you might as well wire the JB for single coil operation for the other option.

I prefer all my Strat pickups to have a tone control. The way mine is wired is so that the upper tone control works for the neck and middle pickups and the lower tone control works for the bridge pickup. This would be especially useful in your situation because JBs can get very trebly, especially if it will be wired so that one coil will be turned off.

I would also recommend you making the lower tone pot your push/pull pot as it would be the easiest to work with both physically and mentally while playing.


perfect !! that's the way I like :)
As final question (then I will clean your kitchen free x 1 months :D)
can you please post a diagram including all the features we talk about?
(1 tone neck-middle, 1 tone bridge with push/pull (250k log?) that makes jb single coil)
You sent a diagram , but now introducing the humb (4 pin) and a push/pull (7 pin :O)

I really don't know how to solder it.

thank you again


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Post subject: Re: bridge pkup repl x strat (rock hard rock) jb jr vs hot r
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:40 am
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diSTRATto wrote:
Martian wrote:
diSTRATto wrote:
you guys are so crazy... sometimes I lost my self in kind of slang... but I think to have understand eheheh...
ty very much.,..go with the jb jr :)

x martian I have update my post on diagram..
So at the end I could need this type :

2 single coil, 1 jb jr , 5way switch, 2 pot tone (1 just forn neck, the 2nd x middle&bridge)
and this is the one you post, with a push pull that splits 1 coil of the humb or change its way between parallel and series (the thing you think is better, more functional)

ty

opsss.. last thing... using the jb jr at the bridge, do you think is better 'pure' without no tone affect it? I think tone control could give the possibility of different sounds, but if you think that for more power and bright is better that the jb is totally unplugged from a tone control, please tell me.
(may be is that's because fender gives the bridge pkup not plugged at tone control :?: )


I answered your single coil wiring and parallel wiring question at your other post.

As to which is more functional, I have noticed with the vast majority of single size humbuckers that none of them sound as good as they can unless they are wired for full power. However, in your particular situation, if the other two pickups are single coils, you might as well wire the JB for single coil operation for the other option.

I prefer all my Strat pickups to have a tone control. The way mine is wired is so that the upper tone control works for the neck and middle pickups and the lower tone control works for the bridge pickup. This would be especially useful in your situation because JBs can get very trebly, especially if it will be wired so that one coil will be turned off.

I would also recommend you making the lower tone pot your push/pull pot as it would be the easiest to work with both physically and mentally while playing.


perfect !! that's the way I like :)
As final question (then I will clean your kitchen free x 1 months :D)
can you please post a diagram including all the features we talk about?
(1 tone neck-middle, 1 tone bridge with push/pull (250k log?) that makes jb single coil)
You sent a diagram , but now introducing the humb (4 pin) and a push/pull (7 pin :O)

I really don't know how to solder it.

thank you again


The push/pull pot will be a 250K alpha.

Here's the closest diagram I can find for you:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wi ... v_2t_5w_pp

The only differences are as follows:

Instead of making the volume pot the push/pull pot, you will make it your lower tone pot. Wire all three pots like the drawing shows and wire the push/pull switch like the drawing shows. Also wire the pickups to the pickup selector switch like the drawing shows.

Now, notice the bottom half of the pickup selector switch. You will see 4 terminals. Wire the lower tone pot's hot wire to the terminal which in the diagram has nothing soldered to it. Lastly, wire the upper tone pot's hot wire to the left two terminals on the bottom of the switch. That's it.

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