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Post subject: Re: 1979 Fender Stratocaster neck question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:02 am
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yeah, that's how I felt about modding my guitar. I didn't really want a show piece, I wanted to play that baby and I'd change whatever to make it fit my need.

That's a great story about finding the neck you were looking for, what are the odds of finding it like that! :o


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Post subject: Re: 1979 Fender Stratocaster neck question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:04 am
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dude i seriously wanted to pee myself when i found that it was the neck i had been missing all these yrs. i in no way ever thought i would find it like that.
heck i never thought it would take that damn long to find one lol.
to beat it all, i got it on the cheap too. if im not mistaken i think it was like $125 or something in the area of. i would have paid $500 for it just to end my search lol.
i said "dude, that neck is worth way more than that". he said "not to me it isnt".
it was ment to be i guess. im gonna refret it with med. jumbo's before it goes where it belongs.

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Post subject: Re: 1979 Fender Stratocaster neck question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:24 am
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I'm sorry but you fella's over there need to do something about your guitar repair pricing. Between $3-500 for a refret is a joke price. You can get a refret and plek setup at the more expensive 'luthier to the stars' places here for £180/$297. It's not even like your cost of living is anywhere near expensive.

Shop around, whoever told you that price is taking the piss. You should have asked em if they get much standup work. They are obviously a comedian on evenings and weekends.

If it were my guitar, it would be refretted. If the wood around the fret cuts had deteriorated to the point that wasn't possible. It would get a new fretboard, becoming essentialy a maple capped neck. Particularly apt for a 70's guitar.
If it had to have a new neck, it would get the best, not the best price.

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Post subject: Re: 1979 Fender Stratocaster neck question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:28 am
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caustic69 wrote:
Based on the tone of some of this thread, that's likely to be an issue, :evil:

There is no tone in this thread, Arjay was simply advising you against using a Mighy Mite neck, and I agree. Maybe that's not your plan, but it was mentioned in your post... nothing wrong with getting a non-Fender neck, many of us have done it.

The neck on my 79 is my favorite and I would never replace it! I even had Musikraft make me a neck for my other Strat using the same specs from my 79. This new neck is also my favorite now. I had a fret job done on my 79 many years ago, if you love the neck then find a good luthier to do the work and be happy :) not sure where you live, but down here in FL I've never heard of anything over $300. IIRC, back in the early 90s when I had mine done it cost $150. If you prefer to save your neck and not risk any damage then contact someone like Musikraft and have them make an exact replica of your neck, you'll be extremely happy, you can pick the type of wood, fretboard, radius, nut width, neck profile...


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Post subject: Re: 1979 Fender Stratocaster neck question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:09 am
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P.S. ......Since no one answered this question of yours.......YES another neck can be mounted that does not have the micro-tilt feature. This being said, it will still have to have the 3 bolt mounting though. The 4 bolt necks' holes will be spaced about 1/8" wider apart, which could be remedied by plugging and drilling new holes in the neck, however any Fender 4 bolt neck will have this problem, being that the bottom single bolt will be against the truss rod anchor. You really cant drill and tap that ;) You can easily mount a 4 bolt anyway, but you have to drill the body (not an option). You can use a 3 bolt neck on a 4 bolt body easily by drilling new neck mounting holes in the neck, but you cannot easily put a 4 bolt neck in a 3 bolt body. Make sense? :D


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Post subject: Re: 1979 Fender Stratocaster neck question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:10 am
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Nice!

Within a handful of posts you've implied I'm an elitist snob, accused me of trolling, and likened me to a dirt bag.

One more insult and I win a free guitar polishing cloth.

You're certainly on a roll -- go for it.

Oh......and welcome to the forum.

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Post subject: Re: 1979 Fender Stratocaster neck question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:39 am
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Steve-oh-no wrote:
P.S. ......Since no one answered this question of yours.......



um....... i answered it way up at the top. :D

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Post subject: Re: 1979 Fender Stratocaster neck question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:55 am
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Steve-oh-no wrote:
P.S. ......Since no one answered this question of yours.......YES another neck can be mounted that does not have the micro-tilt feature. This being said, it will still have to have the 3 bolt mounting though. The 4 bolt necks' holes will be spaced about 1/8" wider apart, which could be remedied by plugging and drilling new holes in the neck, however any Fender 4 bolt neck will have this problem, being that the bottom single bolt will be against the truss rod anchor. You really cant drill and tap that ;) You can easily mount a 4 bolt anyway, but you have to drill the body (not an option). You can use a 3 bolt neck on a 4 bolt body easily by drilling new neck mounting holes in the neck, but you cannot easily put a 4 bolt neck in a 3 bolt body. Make sense? :D


I have a '79 and assumed a 4 bolt neck would fit, thanks for posting that.

Dunno if drilling for a 4 bolt neck is all that bad an option, the 70's aren't that collectable and the neck plate cover it all anyway?

And now that I look at it, none of Fender's vintage necks would work because the truss adjustment screw is centered thru the base of the neck, so the neck screw would hit it unless you used a really short one. Warmoth makes nice necks but the cost for vintage tint alone is $100, you'd be over $300 in no time. . .

To the OP, 'cept for Steve-oh-no you were better off at Strat-Talk :wink:


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Post subject: Re: 1979 Fender Stratocaster neck question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:56 am
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You go Arjay! ROFLMAO!!!


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Post subject: Re: 1979 Fender Stratocaster neck question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:31 pm
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way cool jr wrote:
well since we are talking about it lets see a pic or 3 of it. :D
we like pic's around here by the way.


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Post subject: Re: 1979 Fender Stratocaster neck question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:37 pm
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Steve-oh-no wrote:
P.S. ......Since no one answered this question of yours.......YES another neck can be mounted that does not have the micro-tilt feature. This being said, it will still have to have the 3 bolt mounting though. The 4 bolt necks' holes will be spaced about 1/8" wider apart, which could be remedied by plugging and drilling new holes in the neck, however any Fender 4 bolt neck will have this problem, being that the bottom single bolt will be against the truss rod anchor. You really cant drill and tap that ;) You can easily mount a 4 bolt anyway, but you have to drill the body (not an option). You can use a 3 bolt neck on a 4 bolt body easily by drilling new neck mounting holes in the neck, but you cannot easily put a 4 bolt neck in a 3 bolt body. Make sense? :D



Thanks,
yeah, drilling my existing body to fit a 4-bolt is not an option. It seems the 70's RI necks are probably the best option.


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Post subject: Re: 1979 Fender Stratocaster neck question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:41 pm
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nikininja wrote:
I'm sorry but you fella's over there need to do something about your guitar repair pricing. Between $3-500 for a refret is a joke price. You can get a refret and plek setup at the more expensive 'luthier to the stars' places here for £180/$297. It's not even like your cost of living is anywhere near expensive.

Shop around, whoever told you that price is taking the piss. You should have asked em if they get much standup work. They are obviously a comedian on evenings and weekends.

If it were my guitar, it would be refretted. If the wood around the fret cuts had deteriorated to the point that wasn't possible. It would get a new fretboard, becoming essentialy a maple capped neck. Particularly apt for a 70's guitar.
If it had to have a new neck, it would get the best, not the best price.


yeah, I thought that was kind of steep but now that I hear about the frets being installed from the side maybe there is something to it.
I think eventually I'll have to refret it but I'll probably go the 70's RI route sooner as I'd like to get a rosewood fretboard neck on here and try it out.


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Post subject: Re: 1979 Fender Stratocaster neck question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:38 pm
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Mate whoever is telling you that doesn't know what their talking about. I've never heard of frets being installed from the sides before. I presume that is from the edge of the fretboard and pushed along the insides of the channel till the fret is all the way across the fretboard.

Do yourself a favour and get a couple of 2nd opinions.

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Post subject: Re: 1979 Fender Stratocaster neck question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:17 pm
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nikininja wrote:
Mate whoever is telling you that doesn't know what their talking about.




i read it about 6 months ago in a luthier news letter on vintage guitars.
im trying to find the letter now so you will know where i got it at.

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Post subject: Re: 1979 Fender Stratocaster neck question
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:21 pm
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nikininja wrote:
Mate whoever is telling you that doesn't know what their talking about.



please remember, just because youve never heard of it doesnt mean it didnt happen or one doesnt know what hes talking about. :wink:

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-technic ... tools.html

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-technic ... tools.html

removing frets from an early fender guitar
http://www.guitarrepairbench.com/electr ... frets.html

post #10
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/1979-f ... et-411412/

there that should be enough to get you guys started.

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