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Post subject: bullet strat vs normal strat
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:39 am
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is there any diference in the bullet strat body from a normal strat? how bout a 50's strat body from a 60's strat body?


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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:33 am
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The current "bullet" strat body is thinner than a standard Squier or standard MIM strat. Also the wood is not as good. I am not sure what they make bullets out of.

I cannot comment on 50 and 60's stratocasters as I have no knowledge of them

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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:39 am
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oneal lane wrote:
The current "bullet" strat body is thinner than a standard Squier or standard MIM strat. Also the wood is not as good. I am not sure what they make bullets out of.

I cannot comment on 50 and 60's stratocasters as I have no knowledge of them


would the se strat be a standard strat body?


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Post subject: Re: bullet strat vs normal strat
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:08 am
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oneal lane wrote:
The current "bullet" strat body is thinner than a standard Squier or standard MIM strat. Also the wood is not as good. I am not sure what they make bullets out of.

I cannot comment on 50 and 60's stratocasters as I have no knowledge of them


50's and 60's have different contours, less pronounced or sharper in the 60's.

I have a 04 MIM player's Deluxe which is modern contoured with a 21 fret C neck shape.

A CS 56 NOS TM, 50's contours, 21 fret soft V shaped maple neck.

A standard body (rebuild) mated to a Bullet C shaped (thin) 21 fret rosewood neck. Modern contours.

A Bullet body (rebuild) mated to a J.B. Player 22 fret rosewood neck C shape. No idea what wood is this body, however it is thinner than a standard strat, my guess is that this ensures that no one can swap out the bodies and attempt to sell them for a higher line when combined with say an MIM neck. As well as there is some savings in material cost when you reduce volume due to the large amount of wood Fender uses in their manufacturing.

That all said, I really like the lightness of the Bullet body, However since it is a complete rebuild, it cannot be compared to an OEM Squier Bullet. The contours on the Bullet body are very comfortable, even more so than my MIM ( which I might add is extremely heavy) but not as comfortable as my 56 NOS ( but that is a Custom Shop ) and not fairly comparable.

For what you pay for a Bullet, I would say that Fender hit a homerun, for a minimal cost, you can upgrade pups, dress the frets, upgrade the tuners, properly set it up and have a quality pro performing instrument at a very reasonable cost.
That is a plus for anyone with budget constraints.

Of all 4 of the above strats, which do I play the most... :?: :wink:

It is entirely depending on the " Mood For A Day ".
I have to add that my rebuilds were complete rebuilds so that they really are no longer stock, but if more info needed, check out my build thread in the Stratocaster section " Stratopartster Build I and II ". I commented on my impressions of the Bullet strat unaltered.

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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:12 am
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Your referral acronym of SE is what exactly.. :?:

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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:32 am
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Your referral acronym of SE is what exactly.. :?:

the squier SE pack


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Post subject: Re: bullet strat vs normal strat
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:26 am
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Ahh.....Thank you for the clarification. 8)

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Post subject: Re: bullet strat vs normal strat
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:36 am
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RALF,

What is you end game, what are you trying to accomplish with your strat parts? I take it your building something, a vintage look-a-like?

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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:22 pm
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oneal lane wrote:
RALF,

What is you end game, what are you trying to accomplish with your strat parts? I take it your building something, a vintage look-a-like?


i'm trying to build a cheap guitar that i could play in college but that i can also use live something comfortable to me and i'm a strat freak ;)... i've been saving a jb for a year and never used it decided i want to use it on a strat... i even took some time to learn to solder... but it's getting hard to pick a decent guitar cause there is always a reason for me to hate it... i'm kinda divided between many strat models but my original idea was a classic vibe 50's lpb strat but now i'm thinking artic white bullet or se strat but i can never find a perfect guitar under my price range


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Post subject: Re: bullet strat vs normal strat
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:44 pm
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Ralf,

I have owned several bullets and they are Ok from the box for a practice guitar, typically I put a steel tremelo bar on them and stainless steel saddles to replace the pot metal ones on the new guitar. I do other modifications, but really for a carry around guitar its really not bad right off the rack.

The SE has a thicker body and better machine head tuners, but the pickups and bridge parts etc are really the same as the Bullet.

As you know the classic vibe is a better guitar, a really nice neck finish and better pickups and tuners and quality body. The bridge components are again not to different than the Bullet.

If you just want something that you really do not have to worry about if its lost, stolen or broken-- as that tends to happen in college-- just get a bullet. It's the fastest least expensive route.

Save the rest of your money for a nice MIA or MIM strat to leave at home, or reward yourself when you graduate.

Just my opinion, for what it is worth.

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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:50 pm
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oneal lane wrote:
Ralf,

I have owned several bullets and they are Ok from the box for a practice guitar, typically I put a steel tremelo bar on them and stainless steel saddles to replace the pot metal ones on the new guitar. I do other modifications, but really for a carry around guitar its really not bad right off the rack.

The SE has a thicker body and better machine head tuners, but the pickups and bridge parts etc are really the same as the Bullet.

As you know the classic vibe is a better guitar, a really nice neck finish and better pickups and tuners and quality body. The bridge components are again not to different than the Bullet.

If you just want something that you really do not have to worry about if its lost, stolen or broken-- as that tends to happen in college-- just get a bullet. It's the fastest least expensive route.

Save the rest of your money for a nice MIA or MIM strat to leave at home, or reward yourself when you graduate.

Just my opinion, for what it is worth.



yeah i gotcha :) i just wished that i didn't have to buy all the rest that would come with the se stratocaster


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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:26 pm
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oneal lane wrote:
i just wished that i didn't have to buy all the rest that would come with the se stratocaster


Yes, but its everything you would need for a college guitar. Amp, tuner, guitar ......
They go for around $200.00 U.S. here in the states. What is your price in Portugal?

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oneal lane wrote:
oneal lane wrote:
i just wished that i didn't have to buy all the rest that would come with the se stratocaster


Yes, but its everything you would need for a college guitar. Amp, tuner, guitar ......
They go for around $200.00 U.S. here in the states. What is your price in Portugal?


i could get it for 218€ plus mail order the amp would be useful though... and i've been needing a stand ;) shame that i won't need a case i find that i could use one


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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:36 pm
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by the way would cream plastic parts be the same as aged white?


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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:41 pm
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If you are going to go to all that trouble and expense, why not just look for a used MIM ?
I am assuming that it is fairly easy to get one in or to Portugal ?

If not is there anyone stateside that could find one for you and ship it out ?
I see them for around $250.00 to $350.00 on the used ads either at Craig's list or just in the stores. E-Bay is top dollar always so that is not often the least expensive option.

The Bullets are OK but they do need work and upgrade to make them usable in a band setting.
So right there you are going to spend a couple of hundred dollars in the upgrading and adding to the initial purchase price, it becomes competitive with a used MIM Strat. BUt will not be of the same quality...

It is my opinion that at that point you are better off with the higher quality strat. If you ever want to resell, the Squier will not return much....

There is a trade off but I think that concern for theft and abuse should be the last concern.
$200.00 or $350.00 lost from theft is still a loss.

My personal idea if in your situation would be for a used MIM standard strat SSS and a used Champ 600 amp. You should find both for about the same cost as the SE rig.

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