Fret Crowning

Martian · **Posted:** Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:31 am

way cool jr wrote:

Twelvebar wrote:

Chinaski wrote:

...i've emptied my bank account on tools from Stewart Mac...

Stew Mac can be pricey for some of the specialty tools, oft times you can manufacture the same thing yourself easily and cheaply, as they sell a LOT of modified tools.

nikininja wrote:

And in all honesty take most of what Erlewine says with a huge pinch of salt. He'd tell you the sky is green if it meant he sold a tool or book.

To be fair Niki, although he shills Stew Mac tools with almost every second sentence, he very often explains cheaper alternatives, and how he made the tools he uses in his videos. take for instance the notched straight edge, like yours. they sell a vastly over priced version from their store, but I made a couple because in material of his he explained how to do it yourself.

They sell a super expensive rig to hold a guitar while you paint it, but in his videos he shows how to set yourself up using only scrap lumber (the method i show in my refinishing threads.) So although he gives you every opportunity to impover yourself with their catalog if you pay attention he also lets you know how to do stuff on the cheap (my paint rig cost me about $0.11 it used 4 wood screws, and some scrap.)

i agree here, dan does preach about keeping the costs down on some tools and even shows you how to make some things too. if its a special tool to do a very complex job he will point you to a tool for the job.
one has to realize, a good bit of the tools stew sales are a dan erlewine design.
so yeah, if i was righting a book i sure would shamelessly pitch a few of my tools too along the way. nothing wrong with that ya know.

Well, from what I've seen with his newsletters, he'll take a simple task like cutting a nut and by the time he's through, he's hawked at least $200 in ancillary merchandise in order for someone (per him) to do it right. YMMV.

way cool jr · **Joined:** Tue May 18, 2010 7:34 pm **Posts:** 6911

read his book or watch his videos ceri.
sure the news letter is for stewmac bro, you expect less? oh, one of my guitars will be in an up coming issue of the news letter. :wink:

Ceri · **Posted:** Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:43 am

way cool jr wrote:

read his book or watch his videos ceri.
sure the news letter is for stewmac bro, you expect less?

Hi WC: er... huh?

Maybe you're mistaking someone else's posts for mine. You haven't read me dissing Dan.

Cheers - C

way cool jr · **Joined:** Tue May 18, 2010 7:34 pm **Posts:** 6911

Ceri wrote:

way cool jr wrote:

read his book or watch his videos ceri.
sure the news letter is for stewmac bro, you expect less?

Hi WC: er... huh?

Maybe you're mistaking someone else's posts for mine. You haven't read me dissing Dan.

Cheers - C

ooops, that was our friend martian i met to direct that to. DOH!

Ceri · **Posted:** Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:05 am

Frankly, both of those gentlemen have forgotten more than I shall ever know about guitars. They both get my respectful attention.

Cheers - C

way cool jr · **Joined:** Tue May 18, 2010 7:34 pm **Posts:** 6911

Ceri wrote:

Frankly, both of those gentlemen have forgotten more than I shall ever know about guitars. They both get my respectful attention.

Cheers - C

lol we were talking about dan on that not strats ceri.
wasnt nothing disrespectful said at all.

Ceri · **Posted:** Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:36 am

way cool jr wrote:

Ceri wrote:

wasnt nothing disrespectful said at all.

Nope, I never thought there was. Just saying that if Dan and Martian see something differently - even if it's only about advertising Stew-Mac's products - we just sit back and consider both their points of view.

As it happens, I believe Martian has very specific thoughts on the learning of fretting techniques. But it's not for me to speak for him on that...

Anyhow, WCjr: give us a heads-up when it's your guitar to be seen in one of the newsletters, will you please? That'll add some nice Forum spice to the whole thing!

A friendly cheers to all - C

Martian · **Posted:** Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:39 am

way cool jr wrote:

Ceri wrote:

way cool jr wrote:

read his book or watch his videos ceri.
sure the news letter is for stewmac bro, you expect less?

Hi WC: er... huh?

Maybe you're mistaking someone else's posts for mine. You haven't read me dissing Dan.

Cheers - C

ooops, that was our friend martian i met to direct that to. DOH!

I've read SOME of his books and watched SOME of his videos. With absolutely no sarcasm or hostility intended, what is your point?

way cool jr · **Joined:** Tue May 18, 2010 7:34 pm **Posts:** 6911

Martian wrote:

ooops, that was our friend martian i met to direct that to. DOH!

I've read SOME of his books and watched SOME of his videos. With absolutely no sarcasm or hostility intended, what is your point?[/quote]

hey martian

no worries i know what you mean.
well, in his news letters dan will push a lot of stew tools which stands to reason, its a stew news letter. that kinda is expected i guess.
now, in watching some of his videos and in his books, he will often tell you about a tool to use, but in the same sentence, he will turn around and show you how to make the tool instead of buying a tool. i think he has more freedom in his books and DVD's.
i think dan has more to do with stew than most of us might be looking at. he might be part owner or something, hes been with them for a very long time ya know.
that might be the case.

ceri,

i'll keep you posted. we have talked about it but nothing set in stone at this point. a lot of it matters about getting the guitar to them. im not to comfortable about sending this guitar anywhere. i dont like not keeping an eye on it at all times when its away from it's spot in the vault at the bank. well any of them for that matter.

Martian · **Posted:** Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:43 am

way cool jr wrote:

...
hey martian

no worries i know what you mean.
well, in his news letters dan will push a lot of stew tools which stands to reason, its a stew news letter. that kinda is expected i guess.
now, in watching some of his videos and in his books, he will often tell you about a tool to use, but in the same sentence, he will turn around and show you how to make the tool instead of buying a tool. i think he has more freedom in his books and DVD's.
i think dan has more to do with stew than most of us might be looking at. he might be part owner or something, hes been with them for a very long time ya know.
that might be the case..

I dig.

way cool jr · **Joined:** Tue May 18, 2010 7:34 pm **Posts:** 6911

i have some stew tools. they are high quality. i could have made or bought them some other place sure, but i like the quality stew offers. my regular tools are snapon, so i believe in quality and will pay the extra $$ to get them, much like the reason a lot of us buy fender MIA strats. dan is a good guy, i like his dvds and books.
he explains things pretty well, which is important when you a newbie at most of them like me ya know.

Shockwarrior · **Joined:** Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:02 am **Posts:** 488

Dans fretting and advanced fretting videos are really good.
He covers pretty much everything you need to know about fretting/refretting/crowning.

Its up to you what you use. Dan shows at least a dozen different tools and different ways of doing it. Most of its covered in the fret basics video.

If you have some spare wire and a piece of wood or an old neck you have plenty to practice with.

way cool jr · **Joined:** Tue May 18, 2010 7:34 pm **Posts:** 6911

i have the fret basics video, so your saying that there is no need for any more videos in that series, that everythings is already covered by this video?

Twelvebar · **Posted:** Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:08 am

way cool jr wrote:

i have the fret basics video, so your saying that there is no need for any more videos in that series, that everythings is already covered by this video?

Shockwarrior wrote:

Dans fretting and advanced fretting videos are really good.

way cool jr wrote:

man some of you guys arent paying attention. :lol:

way cool jr · **Joined:** Tue May 18, 2010 7:34 pm **Posts:** 6911

Twelvebar wrote:

way cool jr wrote:

man some of you guys arent paying attention. :lol:

oh hell, i posted that in the wrong thread lol. now i gotta go find the right thread and see what i posted there. :roll:

thats what ya get when you try to reply to everybody at once lol.

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