affect of the number of pieces of wood?

Shredd6 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:54 pm

Yea, the neck is flatter on the backside radius and it makes the neck thinner as a result. Imagine a thinner modern C shape. 2 1/4" at the heel. To tell you the truth, this is the only one I've run across like this. My other Hamer neck is modern C.

Dimarzio Super Dist. and Tone Zone, CTS pots, Orange cap, Fender Tele 3-way sw., Grover tuners, Vint. brass saddles. Plays really nice.

BMW-KTM · **Posted:** Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:12 pm

OK
I guess I've wasted enough energy on this pointless exercise in sidestepping.

orvilleowner · **Posted:** Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:24 pm

Shredd6 wrote:

The biggest problem I have with a question like this, is that "affecting tone" implies a negative aspect to the question. Who's to say that the affecting property is always bad?

IMO, this is the wisest thing said in this entire thread.

All of this back and forth about something that's not even defined.

"Tone."

Consider the following:

Mathematically, one cannot order multivariate data.

orvilleowner · **Posted:** Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:29 pm

Xhefri wrote:

A one piece, with the grain running the length of the body, and depending on what part of the tree the wood is taken, can be more prone to warping.

Have you ever seen a guitar with a warped body?

Xhefri · **Posted:** Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:43 pm

orvilleowner wrote:

Xhefri wrote:

A one piece, with the grain running the length of the body, and depending on what part of the tree the wood is taken, can be more prone to warping.

Have you ever seen a guitar with a warped body?

Looks like your reading through the thread this evening. When you get it figured out please tell us the answers! :lol:

To answer your question, yes, in high humidity places, such as The Philippines and in the South Pacific (I head to the jungles of Vanuatu on Sunday! Fun, rainy season speaking of HUMIDITY). Cheap plank type guitars made from one piece of wood. But you have a point, it is not all that common, with guitars kept properly. I saw an old Fender Mustang that was pretty warped too, but it was stored in a damp old basement sitting in the corner on cement.....

orvilleowner · **Posted:** Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:50 pm

Xhefri wrote:

But you have a point, it is not all that common, with guitars kept properly. I saw an old Fender Mustang that was pretty warped too, but it was stored in a damp old basement sitting in the corner on cement .....

That Mustang probably wasn't a one-piece body.

Yeah, I'm doing some catching up. Oh, rereading my last post, I see that one could take it as a bit snippy. Not intended. I know that you have seen a lot of guitars, so I figured if anyone had, you might have seen a warped one. I have never seen one.

And of course we are talking about decent instruments with quality construction, like Fenders or Gibsons.

V · **Joined:** Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:43 am **Posts:** 43

Well, I can say that a one piece guitar (that is, neck and body all carved from one piece) does indeed sustain better than a bolt on or set neck. But that's to do with the neck joint more so than how the body is constructed.

Ceri · **Posted:** Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:07 am

orvilleowner wrote:

Shredd6 wrote:

The biggest problem I have with a question like this, is that "affecting tone" implies a negative aspect to the question. Who's to say that the affecting property is always bad?

IMO, this is the wisest thing said in this entire thread.

Yes indeed. In fact, I want credit for admiring Shredd's remark back on page two.

He's said plenty of other good stuff on this thread too.

orvilleowner wrote:

All of this back and forth about something that's not even defined.

But then that's the whole function of "tone" in guitar discussions, isn't it? It's unquantifiable, so people can claim almost anything about it and nobody can gainsay them.

"My homemade guitar built from cardboard and cheesecloth has better tone than CS guitars I've played." Who can say otherwise?

Cheers - C

jeffnles1 · **Posted:** Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:23 am

Quote:

But then that's the whole function of "tone" in guitar discussions, isn't it? It's unquantifiable, so people can claim almost anything about it and nobody can gainsay them.

"My homemade guitar built from cardboard and cheesecloth has better tone than CS guitars I've played." Who can say otherwise?

Cheers - C

Ceri,
Man, there you go bringing logic, rationality and reason to tone discussions. How dare you.

V · **Joined:** Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:43 am **Posts:** 43

Quote:

"My homemade guitar built from cardboard and cheesecloth has better tone than CS guitars I've played." Who can say otherwise?

Cheers - C

I'd play that guitar. Tone for...seconds.

Xhefri · **Posted:** Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:46 am

orvilleowner wrote:

Oh, rereading my last post, I see that one could take it as a bit snippy. Not intended.

This is the heart of what goes wrong with these types of discussions. We can so easily read into the motives and "tone" of a post. So people get their hankers up and respond in a mean or biting way. When I read what you said, I could see that it could come across that way, but then I have read a lot of your posts and know you not that kind of guy! But man, people sure can get carried away saying things on a forum that they would not say just sitting down and visiting with a person. When this subject came up (again) I was like Oh no! Here we go again! Mr. C has shared my thought exactly and many would be benefited to go back through this thread and read what he wrote a few posts back. Mean while guess I will go plunk on my bolt on neck, 3 piece body Strat Plus and enjoy every minute of it! (Here we go again! :lol:

) My Les Pauls do sustain and have great harmonics.....

orvilleowner · **Posted:** Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:04 pm

Ceri wrote:

orvilleowner wrote:

All of this back and forth about something that's not even defined.

But then that's the whole function of "tone" in guitar discussions, isn't it? It's unquantifiable, so people can claim almost anything about it and nobody can gainsay them.

Awww, I'm disappointed to read that you seem to have given up on the scientific method!

orvilleowner · **Posted:** Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:14 pm

Xhefri wrote:

When this subject came up (again) I was like Oh no! Here we go again!

Yes, everything goes 'round and 'round.

I read that "one piece bodies can warp" thing and cringe. I guess it's the "silver lining" to having multi-piece bodies, you know: "I have a 3 piece body, but at least it won't warp."

The highways aren't exactly littered with warped one-piece Fender bodies :lol:

As for the tonal issues, I recently read that Eric Johnson has "accepted" multi-piece bodies ...

babar · **Joined:** Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:36 am **Posts:** 49

The Eric Johnson model uses two pieces of alder. Why not three? Or eight?

Shredd6 · **Posted:** Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:30 pm

Oh the crazy tone discussions that could be brought up with this kind of guitar:

Does one half of the guitar sound different than the other half?

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