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Post subject: buying solder need help
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:39 am
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guys i went to a store last week and i found two of the recomended solders... but i have a doubt all they say is 60/40 and 63/37 does that imply that it has respectivly 40% and 37% lead or could they be those unleaded solders?


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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:02 pm
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Hi ralfcaetano,

60/40 is the standard tin/lead solder and it is still available, and not illegal. I believe that manufacturers only have to use the "unleaded" stuff for export products, and they may even use it for domestic production, but the tin/lead is still available as it always has been. The unleaded "bad solder" should be marked RoHS compliant, or some other such labeling to indicate lead-free. :idea:

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Post subject: Re: buying solder need help
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:07 pm
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Hi ralfcaetano,

60/40 is the standard tin/lead solder and it is still available, and not illegal. I believe that manufacturers only have to use the "unleaded" stuff for export products, and they may even use it for domestic production, but the tin/lead is still available as it always has been. The unleaded "bad solder" should be marked RoHS compliant, or some other such labeling to indicate lead-free. :idea:


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Post subject: Re: buying solder need help
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:28 pm
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Buy this or something like it: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index ... lue=Solder

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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:32 pm
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Ace Hardware usually has a pretty good selection of solder and soldering accessories.

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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:28 pm
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And don't forget to buy a few very small clips to use as "heat sinks". It sure helps from melting components upstream of the soldering iron that are innocent bystanders. Don't ask me how I know :mrgreen:


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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:38 pm
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Cambo wrote:
And don't forget to buy a few very small clips to use as "heat sinks". It sure helps from melting components upstream of the soldering iron that are innocent bystanders. Don't ask me how I know :mrgreen:


Solid advice, Cambo. You know your chit!

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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:30 am
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Cambo wrote:
And don't forget to buy a few very small clips to use as "heat sinks". It sure helps from melting components upstream of the soldering iron that are innocent bystanders. Don't ask me how I know :mrgreen:


i heard of these clips and i think i saw them but i'm not sure... i think those clips work


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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:49 am
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by the way should the iron touch the wires and components or does it only touch the solder? cause the way i see it i should have the iron touch the solder and let the solder melt on the joint


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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:54 am
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ralfcaetano wrote:
by the way should the iron touch the wires and components or does it only touch the solder? cause the way i see it i should have the iron touch the solder and let the solder melt on the joint


You heat the joint and touch the solder to the hot joint. Go to You Tube and search for soldering videos. There are plently of how-to's out there.

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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:58 am
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bluesky636 wrote:
ralfcaetano wrote:
by the way should the iron touch the wires and components or does it only touch the solder? cause the way i see it i should have the iron touch the solder and let the solder melt on the joint


You heat the joint and touch the solder to the hot joint. Go to You Tube and search for soldering videos. There are plently of how-to's out there.



so the iron touches the joint right?


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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:02 am
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ralfcaetano wrote:
bluesky636 wrote:
ralfcaetano wrote:
by the way should the iron touch the wires and components or does it only touch the solder? cause the way i see it i should have the iron touch the solder and let the solder melt on the joint


You heat the joint and touch the solder to the hot joint. Go to You Tube and search for soldering videos. There are plently of how-to's out there.



so the iron touches the joint right?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_NU2ruz ... D725C26E97

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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:26 am
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...so the iron touches the joint right?


Right! Use the iron to heat the component terminal, solder pad, and lead or wire, and touch the solder to the heated component lead, letting the component melt the solder, not the iron. This way, you insure a proper joint. When you melt the solder with the iron and pile it on the component, you can get a "cold" joint, meaning that the component was not hot enough for the solder to properly adhere to it. Put just a touch of solder on the iron tip when starting, to better help transfer heat to the component from the iron. :idea:

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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:33 am
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shimmilou wrote:
ralfcaetano wrote:
...so the iron touches the joint right?


Right! Use the iron to heat the component terminal, solder pad, and lead or wire, and touch the solder to the heated component lead, letting the component melt the solder, not the iron. This way, you insure a proper joint. When you melt the solder with the iron and pile it on the component, you can get a "cold" joint, meaning that the component was not hot enough for the solder to properly adhere to it. Put just a touch of solder on the iron tip when starting, to better help transfer heat to the component from the iron. :idea:


ohhh so i need to make a heat bridge with the solder sweet :)


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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:36 pm
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ralfcaetano wrote:
shimmilou wrote:
ralfcaetano wrote:
...so the iron touches the joint right?


Right! Use the iron to heat the component terminal, solder pad, and lead or wire, and touch the solder to the heated component lead, letting the component melt the solder, not the iron. This way, you insure a proper joint. When you melt the solder with the iron and pile it on the component, you can get a "cold" joint, meaning that the component was not hot enough for the solder to properly adhere to it. Put just a touch of solder on the iron tip when starting, to better help transfer heat to the component from the iron. :idea:


ohhh so i need to make a heat bridge with the solder sweet :)


Watch the video.

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